[OSM-talk-be] TEC & Open Data: let's start !

Pieter Colpaert pieter.colpaert at okfn.org
Wed Jun 18 21:15:01 UTC 2014


Share-Alike doesn't make much sense for data. Agree we should ask TEC to 
go for CC BY or CC 0.

Kind regards,

Pieter
On 2014-06-18 23:12, Jo wrote:
> I posted on the imports list. This is the first answer I got:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     I'm sorry to bear bad news, but the "sharealike" aspect of CC-BY-SA
>     4.0 means that you cannot import the data into OSM, since CC-BY-SA 4.0
>     data can be publicly adapted only under ___the same___ licence (i.e.
>     not under OSM's ODbL licence) - or, more accurately, it must be
>     publicly reused one of the licences listed in the first section of
>     this page:
>     https://creativecommons.org/compatiblelicenses
>
>     Dan
>
>
>
> Can we ask TEC directly to give Openstreetmap explicit permission to 
> reuse the data and redistribute as ODbL? Or whether they'd consider 
> releasing the data under ODbL as well?
>
> Do we have a contact with them who can make such decisions?
>
> Jo
>
>
> 2014-06-18 15:18 GMT+02:00 Jo <winfixit at gmail.com 
> <mailto:winfixit at gmail.com>>:
>
>     I managed to get the script to the next 'level'. For lines for
>     which all stops are mapped, it's possible to create skeleton route
>     relations for all the variations.
>
>     See here for an example:
>
>     https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/42418402/RoutesFor%20W%20BXL%20-%20Waterloo.osm
>
>     Give me a sign if you plan to actually use it. If you do, keep in
>     mind 2 routes already exist for that line, which I created by
>     adding the stops manually. Those 2 contain ways too, of course. It
>     takes a bit of fiddling to add them to the route_master and
>     transfer the stops from 2 of the skeleton routes to them.
>
>     If you want other skeleton routes to experiment with, let me know.
>     It's easier when no routes for such a line exist yet in the OSM
>     data. But then you still have to add all the composing ways
>     yourself, of course. In the MAPCSS I have code to visually
>     highlight all the stops when you temporarily add odbl=yes as a tag
>     to the route.
>
>     For those interested in the subject, I think it's best to simply
>     show it all during a Google hangout.
>
>     Cheers,
>
>     Jo
>
>
>     2014-06-17 23:20 GMT+02:00 André Pirard <A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com
>     <mailto:A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com>>:
>
>         On 2014-06-17 22:41, Jo wrote :
>>         What I fail to see is why I'd need to contact him. It doesn't
>>         depend on him at all whether the import is approved or not.
>         No but he probably knows much about how being approved and
>         it's his interest to help you
>
>>         Anyway, the question is: Is that wiki page good enough for
>>         submitting it or does it need to be improved?
>         and he might know that. Not me.
>
>         Up to you (but please help my finger cramp ;-))
>
>         André.
>
>
>>
>>         Jo
>>
>>
>>         2014-06-17 22:07 GMT+02:00 André Pirard
>>         <A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com <mailto:A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com>>:
>>
>>             Jo,
>>
>>             Isn't Andy Allan making the Transport Map?
>>             You might try to get advice from him.
>>             He would certainly be keen to have us on his map!
>>             I once contacted him for a bike map trifle.
>>             Took some time but he very kindly replied.
>>             Whoever that is anyway.
>>
>>             Fingers crossed.
>>
>>             André.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>

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