[OSM-talk-be] Géomatique Wallonne - strategic plan

[Julien Fastré]

Hi,

With the great help of Philippe Duchesnes, we wrote a single an common
review of the PSGW.

Could you give us some comments before we send this ? Our deadline is
very short (this monday, end afternoon - the initial text was submitted
to our wiki).

The RC text :
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wGZZndpoLEgJuT5fvVv6IkjaLKy6D43l5CUnTBo4z4g/edit?usp=sharing

The PSGW itself :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/images/7/7b/Projet_de_plan_strat%C3%A9gique_g%C3%A9omatique_pour_la_Wallonie_%28Belgique%29.pdf

Thanks,
Julien

Le 15/03/14 12:16, Julien Fastré a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> Ben, Pieter,
>
> I do not have any opposition as joining OKFN and OSM opinion in one
> document. I thought it was more strategic to have two voices, but I am
> not sure this reasoning match with reality.
>
> I propose to write differently the chapter about "open source" in a
> way which is more pragmatic. I might do this at the beginning of the week.
>
> OK ?
>
> Or I delete this chapter completely ?
>
> @Jo: the permission to trace from WMS is included in our request to
> open data globally. I also have contacts which focus more on web
> services. But I will mention the persmissions of Brussels and Flanders
> (the advance of wallonie and brussels is a quite good arguments with
> our politics :-) ).
>
> Julien
>
>
> Le 15/03/14 12:04, Jo a écrit :
>> Hi Julien,
>>
>> You mention we have permission to trace from Bing. In the mean time
>> we have better imagery (higher resolution, more recent) in Flanders
>> and Brussels provided by AGIV, which we are also allowed to trace. We
>> also have permission to, if I understood correctly, to use their WMS
>> (or is that CRAB) to trace/verify street names and house numbers.
>>
>> Maybe the Region Wallonne can do one better by allowing us to
>> trace/reuse building outlines :-) like in Brussels Region.
>>
>> Open data and Open source are two orthogonal subjects, one can proces
>> opendata with closed source software or closed data with open source
>> software. We have a preference for software under free licenses, but
>> everybody should be able/allowed to use whatever software they please
>> and can afford as long as they comply with the licenses.
>>
>> Jo
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-15 11:53 GMT+01:00 Ben Abelshausen <ben.abelshausen at gmail.com
>> <mailto:ben.abelshausen at gmail.com>>:
>>
>>     First of all Julien: thanks for all your hard work and enthusiasm
>>     in taking on this task! :-)
>>
>>     I think it is pretty obvious that we would want to promote usage
>>     of open-source as well but I think this is something that is not
>>     the task of our community.
>>
>>     We can recommend using open-source tools but the argument against
>>     opening data cannot ever be 'open-data is not possible because
>>     then we would have to use open-source software'. I think we
>>     should be very very clear that these two are different. An excel
>>     document with nice juicy open-data is still a good thing.
>>
>>     But we can still recommend using open-source tools, we just have
>>     to be careful about how this is done in this document.
>>
>>     Also: We should be careful about positioning the OSM project in
>>     Belgium as a project that wants to collect/incorporate open-data
>>     sets. We are about collecting data in the form of mapping the
>>     world, not about collecting open-geo-data sets. That was an
>>     argument for me to join everything with OKFN into one document.
>>
>>     Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>     Best regards,
>>
>>     Ben Abelshausen
>>
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