[OSM-talk-be] How to import from cartoDB/postGIS to OSM?

André Heughebaert andrejjh at gmail.com
Fri Jul 10 07:08:50 UTC 2015

Hi Marc,
Thanks for your remark.
Indeed my first question should have been: Is there a place for such data
in OpenStreetMap?

What we have assembled for JunIBIS.be <http://www.JunIBIS.be> is the
positions of units during the Campaign of Belgium 15-22 June 1815.
To make it simple this comes to what? (unit X) where?(lat,long) and

This is neither position of old buildings(OpenHistoricalMap) nor what's on
the ground now(OpenStreetMap).
We do use Leaflet(and we could have used OpenLayers) to display this on
Ferarris maps background.
FYI,the Ferarris maps were drawn by the end of 18th century, digitalized
and freely available as WMS thanks to Walloon region.

Our maps are available under CC-BY licence.
Users have the possibility to copy/print our maps and to access our postGIS
database on CartoDB <http://www.cartodb.com/>.
In May,I talked to this project with Nicolas Pettiaux and he gave me the
idea to make this available on OSM.

So my question should be rephrased like this: Is there a
standard/infrastructure to publish locations of historical events?
This is much broader than just military conflicts, it could be natural
events such as volcanos eruptions, earthquakes... or anything else.

If OSM is not suitable for this, maybe the OSM community have an idea of
such thing that would offer a new dimension(time)for Open Geographical Data.
If nothing exist, it's probably time to think about it.
Thanks for your suggestions,

BTW, I'm working for GBIF.org an inter gouvernemental infrastructure that
offers open access to biodiversity data since 2001.

André (Charlie) Heughebaert

2015-07-10 8:28 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com>:

> La première question est: "Est-ce-qu'il y une place dans OSM pour ce genre
> de données ?"
> Ce sont des informations historiques, n'est-ce pas ?
> OSM est seulement pour des objets qui existe aujourd'hui. Les autres
> objets doivent être ajouter dans OpenHistoricalMap (peut-être)
> (Now in English for a more detailed explanation)
> My first questions is, what kind of data do you have ? Does that data have
> a place in OpenStreetMap ?
> OSM is about facts that can be verified on the ground now, it normally
> does not contain historical information like the positions of armies on a
> certain date.
> Buildings that are long gone could go in OpenHistoricalMap.
> Positions of armies on a certain date does not belong there neither. That
> kind of information stays in your own database and could be combined with
> an OSM background layer on a website, using one of the JavaScript libraries
> (Leaflet, OpenLayers).
> Or you could use umap.
> So please let us first know what kind of data you have before discussing
> the technicalities of an import.
> Furthermore what is the license of the data ? Is it available under an
> ODbL compliant license ? This also holds for all the sources you consulted
> to create your database.
> regards
> m
> 2015-07-09 15:24 GMT+02:00 André Heughebaert <andrejjh at gmail.com>:
>> Bonjour,
>> Nous avons réalisé une site de cartographie historique sur la Campagne
>> de Belgique 1815 <http://www.junibis.be>.
>> Les données sont actuellement dans CartoDB/postGIS.
>> Quel est le meilleur moyen d'importer tout cela automatiquement dans OSM?
>> Mon language préféré est Ruby.
>> Merci,
>> André (Charlie) Heughebaert
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