[OSM-talk-be] Find an open alternative for asana

[André Pirard]

On 2015-03-26 10:16, Marc Ducobu wrote :
> Hello,
>
> # Test
> I tested open alternatives for asana (found on http://alternativeto.net)
Thanks.
What is asana and the others, what are the specs, a simple link to them,
maybe?
Instead of repeating the same things on and on, I wrote a small blurb
here <http://www.papou.byethost9.com/notes/Web%20server%20and%20e-mail/>.
With the exact copy here down below.

André.


> ## Trac
> Not tested as excluded by discussion in the mailing list.
>
> ## Taiga.io
> It is a kanban app. The name of the lists are defined and can't be
> change ( New, Ready, In Progress, Ready For Test, Done and Archived).
>
> ## Libreboard
> It is a trello copy. We can create the lists that we want and add
> tasks for each list (+ comments). There is an "archived" possibility,
> but it is not possible to display the archived task for a given list
> (it do not work for the moment).
>
> ## TaskBoard
> Same remarks than Taiga.io
>
> ## Kanboard
> Same remarks than Taiga.io
>
> # Conclusion
>
> I think than libreboard is what we need. Because it is very flexible
> and we can organize the lists as we want.
>
> The solution can be self-hosted and you can try here :
> http://libreboard.com/boards/qTETgRLfKrGxrEFz8/openstreetmap-belgium
> The self-hosted solution is the easier one but I don't really know how
> to have back the data (maybe by email)... In the other hand these data
> are not so important...
>
> Also we can host the solution by ourself but it can be tricky : it is
> an meteor app... They advise to use Docker ou sandstorm.
>
> Marc


    Web server and e-mail


People complain that it is difficult to edit a wiki.

 1. Web server and e-mail <#mozTocId808464>
     1. Files <#mozTocId158821>
     2. Editing <#mozTocId49426>
     3. Converting a HTML e-mail message to Web server HTML is easy.
        <#mozTocId862453>
     4. Converting a Web page to e-mail is easy too <#mozTocId347692>
     5. Copy&paste part of a Web page <#mozTocId822953>
     6. Mailman <#mozTocId306106>


      Files

I do not use a wiki but this simple Web server that I am using with
basic HTML.
I access the Web server with FTP
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File_Transfer_Protocol> and GVFS-FTP
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GVFS> makes the server's file appear as
local.
Hence, I edit my Web server with a simple file copy or I edit the files
as if they were local.


      Editing

I edit my Web pages' HTML WYSIWYG with Thunderbird
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Thunderbird> or KompoZer
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KompoZer> (same editor).
But any *basic* HTML editor will do and there are many.
"basic" is important because editors using extravagant HTML are more a
nuisance than a help.


      Converting a HTML e-mail message to Web server HTML is easy.

  * save it as a *.eml file
  * rename the file to *.mht or *.mhtml (it's the same format)
  * open this file with a Web browser
  * save the page as "Web page, complete"
  * now you saved a *html page and a folder if the message contained
    images etc.
  * copy both to your Web server local image and you have a new Web page
  * possibly edit the HTML image etc...


      Converting a Web page to e-mail is easy too

  * save it as "Web archive", you get a *.mhtml file
  * rename it to *.eml
  * ask your email program
      o to copy it to an IMAP
        <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Message_Access_Protocol>
        folder (drag & drop?)
      o or to include it in the e-mail you're writing


      Copy&paste part of a Web page

(e.g. Wikipedia) to an e-mail message can be done.
But often they refer to CSS or script definitions that are not copied.
Or they use extravagant features that mangle the format.


      Mailman

I am subscribed to several mailing lists using mailman.
I subscribe a Googlemail account which receives the e-mails and

  * archives them to the appropriate folder according to origin
  * forwards them to the mail account where I read them

Mailman

  * keeps the text version of the message visible
  * stores the HTML version as a so-called attachment

My copy of Firefox cannot read the latter. Can you?
They say they do that for security reasons.
I told them that the best security is to run the e-mail through a basic
HTML filter.
It's bizarre to send the HTML copy to the subscribers and to "protect"
the archive.
It will probably never done.  It's too easy.




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