[OSM-talk-be] osm - use by communes/gemeenten

Tue May 5 19:22:24 UTC 2015

Here's a map of Russian businesses in Belgium:
https://www.russian-belgium.be/map Shops, Sunday schools, translators,
lawyers…

Looks like langugage layers are more popular than municipal amenities
;-)

On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 05:42:40PM +0200, Glenn Plas wrote:
> This is a project I'm involved with.   Promote living and working in
> Brussels for 'Vlamingen'.
> 
> I take no sides in the debate ;-)
> 
> http://brussel.opkaart.be/
> 
> that is VGC (Vlaamse Gemeenschaps Commisie)
> 
> They have OSM supporters in their circles who are eager to work with big
> data in the near and far future.
> 
> Glenn
> 
> 
> 
> On 01-05-15 10:57, Pierre Parmentier wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > Thanks for all the interesting links. It will help.
> > 
> > May be were my questions not formulated correctly. What I mean is to
> > find additional examples of the use a commune/gemeente can _do_ with OSM
> > database.
> > 
> > I had some ideas: inventory of all schools, AED, health centres, trees
> > along the streets, benches, small monuments and statues, public parks,
> > routes of promenade.
> > 
> > I have met two échevins/schepen of my municipality (public works +
> > plantations + propreté/netheid and IT + Energie + Logement/Woning). They
> > are curious. What can I propose to them as real life examples made by
> > other municipalities? Things that will really help them.
> > 
> > Pierre P.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 2015-04-30 16:26 GMT+02:00 André Pirard <A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com
> > <mailto:A.Pirard.Papou at gmail.com>>:
> > 
> >     On 2015-04-30 11:34, Marc Gemis wrote :
> >>     not in Belgium, but Troisdorf, Germany uses it as well
> >>     : http://stadtplan.troisdorf.de/
> >>
> >>     This (using OSM) is what Westtour (tourism office) & the GIS
> >>     responsible for West-Vlaanderen want to accomplish.
> >>     I can send the email address of the latter in a private mail if
> >>     you wish.
> >     Nice!
> >     Troisdorf uses Mapbender which is using layers much in the same but
> >     more sophisticated way I mention below ...
> >     Read on ...
> >>     regards
> >>
> >>     m
> >>
> >>     On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Pierre Parmentier
> >>     <pierrecparmentier at gmail.com <mailto:pierrecparmentier at gmail.com>>
> >>     wrote:
> >>
> >>         Two questions:
> >>
> >>          1. Does anybody have an experience of the use of OSM by a
> >>             commune/gemeente?
> >>          2. Are there synthetic presentations of OSM specifically
> >>             dedicated to responsible persons at a
> >>             communal/gemeentelijk level?
> >>
> >>         I am aware of the experiences in Brest and around. Anything
> >>         similar for Belgium?
> >>
> >>         Ben, two years ago we were working on a small flyer. Was it
> >>         finally translated in French? Don't remember ...
> >>
> >>         Pierre P.
> >>
> > 
> >     Hi,
> > 
> >     You can find some usage of OSM related to communes  here
> >     <https://www.google.be/search?&q=site%3Abe+commune+%28OpenStreetMap%20OR%20OSM%29>  
> >     and   there
> >     <https://www.google.be/search?&q=site%3Abe+gemeente+%28OpenStreetMap+OR+OSM%29>.
> >     For example, first that catches my eye and that I open:  Ma commune
> >     sans #TTIP / TAFTA ?
> >     <http://www.ellezelles.ecolo.be/?Ma-commune-sans-TTIP-TAFTA>  by œucolo.
> > 
> > 
> >     Those who got municipalities interested in OSM are lucky fellows (1).
> > 
> >     Municipalities however are an answer to the former question
> >     "Subject: Idea?" to make some money.
> >     I recall my page
> >     <http://www.papou.byethost9.com/maps/OpenLayers.html> showing how to
> >     easily make not only one POI map but also a mix of several sources.
> >     We could propose municipalities and other establishments to host
> >     their POIs on our own server.
> >     Unlike in my examples, the details of the POIs would be in the OSM
> >     database itself.
> >     The customers would send by e-mail updates in the form of OSM tags
> >     to validate & paste right into JOSM:
> > 
> >>     building=house ...
> >>     shop=... or other feature
> >>     name=...
> >>     addr:city=<municipality>
> >>     addr:place=<part-municipality>
> >>     addr:street=...
> >>     addr:housenumber=...
> >>     addr:postcode=...
> >>     contact:email=e-mail_address
> >>     contact:fax=+32-n-<fax>
> >>     contact:phone=+32-n-<phone>
> >>     contact:website=http://...
> >>     image=<image>
> >>     wikipedia=<wikipedia>
> > 
> >     The POI map data would be a simple list of OSM objects IDs.
> >     A POI cache would probably be needed for performance.
> > 
> >     Cheers
> > 
> >     André.
> > 
> > 
> >     (1)
> >     I wrote before that every time I proposed OSM tagging (to them or
> >     other organizations), either I got no reply or they picked my idea
> >     and they did it with Googlemaps.
> >     Lately, I met our bourgmestre and I mentioned the OSM boundary one
> >     of of our "part-municipalities".  Firstly, I was amazed how well he
> >     knows it despite it belongs to history. But secondly I was
> >     disappointed he replied that drawing it is totally uninteresting.  I
> >     had no time to convince the busy man about OSM and the many of you.
> >     I also proposed to map municipality related car sharing stops (where
> >     sort of subscribed hitch hikers stop subscribed cars) and make a POI
> >     map. Not only made they the map with Google but also they
> >     disregarded adding the stops to OSM (and moreover I couldn't have
> >     OSM tell me the tags to use for that particular feature).
> >     Etc.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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