[OSM-talk-be] OSM in French and Dutch

Tue Aug 9 12:24:06 UTC 2016

The only cost would be the cost of the hosting server.

The cost will depend on the use of the « service » : do we want a « tile » server that could be used by everyone 24/7 or is it only a « test » service (that we may only use for testing and development) ? The first use case will need a more powerful server (so more expensive server) obviously.

We could begin small of course.

The volume of data is important in the cost calculation. I think full OSM is approximately 50 Go, right ?

Once the date is processed, the tiles are saved on the disk. These tiles also costs volume but it is mostly the amount of those tiles (around 100.000.000.000 tiles for the whole world : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Zoom_levels) that can be a problem.

I use OVH services ; the server I suggest to begin with would be :

·         A could server (more flexible) : https://www.ovh.com/fr/cloud/instances/ram.xml = 35.00 EUR HT/month (+additionnal disk depending on the area covered)

·         A dedicated server (more « robust ») : https://www.ovh.com/fr/serveurs_dedies/hosting/ = 59.99 EUR HT/month

There is of course other provider but I only worked with OVH so far and I am very happy with it.

On the other hand, I have absolutely NO idea if those 2 servers could handle 100.000.000.000 files :D

I can ask them.

For demo purpose I could host it on one of my servers (but limited to Belgium ^^).

Jonathan Beliën

GEO-6

De : joost schouppe [mailto:joost.schouppe at gmail.com] 
Envoyé : mardi 9 août 2016 13:09
À : Jonathan Beliën
Cc : OpenStreetMap Belgium
Objet : Re: [OSM-talk-be] OSM in French and Dutch

Hi Jonathan,

That would be extremely cool. Do you have an idea of the costs involved in setting this up for the area you mention and for the whole world?

I think if we can have a demo by SOTM, we might find someone to sponsor it there.

Joost

2016-08-09 12:39 GMT+02:00 Jonathan Beliën <jbe at geo6.be>:

Hi everyone,

Good point indeed.

It’s not very complicated to generate a custom rendering. For example, I did it for BeNeLux + France + Germany using imposm 3 (https://imposm.org/ ) and MapServer + MapProxy for rendering. 

My rendering use « default » names but I could have used NL name or FR names as needed.

It works quite well and it’s not too complicated (even with a recurring update). The only problem is the disk space those « tiles » use on the server. It’s already quite big for the small area I cover (BeNeLux + north of France + west of Germany) ; I can’t imagine the number of tiles if we want to cover the whole world.

I do not know how to organize that but we could have a « Belgium OSM rendering FR » and a « Belgium OSM rendering NL » created, hosted and maintained by « OSM.be ».

Jonathan Beliën

GEO-6

De : joost schouppe [mailto:joost.schouppe at gmail.com] 
Envoyé : mardi 9 août 2016 11:38
À : OpenStreetMap Belgium
Objet : [OSM-talk-be] OSM in French and Dutch
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Hi,

Someone asked on Twitter about a rendering of OSM in Dutch and French to avoid the clutter of bilingual names in the standard rendering.

https://twitter.com/iciBrussels/status/762743820358418432

The French render is easy, OSM France provides it. But how about a Dutch rendering? Do you know of one?

It might be cool to create a little webmap on OSM.be with the three official languages. If you help me find a Dutch rendering, I can make that (I've just learned the basics about leaflet).

It looks rather easy to make a style with mapbox, but you need to extract the data through Overpass for exotic languages like Dutch, so it would be a bit of a job to keep that up to date.

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