[OSM-talk-be] BE Quarterly Project (Schools) - Go !
Jo
winfixit at gmail.com
Thu Jan 21 08:59:11 UTC 2016
Wow, that's great. I didn't realise you were that far along already.
Regarding the Replace Geometry tool. I think it makes sense to remap it to
Shift-T.
Then you can use Shift to select 2 buildings, move finger to 't' and poof,
done.
Jo
2016-01-21 9:52 GMT+01:00 Glenn Plas <glenn at byte-consult.be>:
> Since I've now written a tool to do this (and tested it), guess I have
> to react now :)
>
> On 21-01-16 05:38, Jo wrote:
> > About that CRAB import. In The Netherlands they already created a tool
> > to assist with that for their BAG import. I think we should look into
> > reusing that, adapted to the data we have available.
>
> We can't use that tool. If you take a look at the BAG import data, it's
> not really well done, in Holland most of the addressing is done on
> nodes, it's not merged into the building, which is what we do here, and
> it has many advantages to do it on the way. Also, using that tool will
> actually cause problems at the border, since houses (in Stekene) are
> aparantly in both BAG and GRB when they are visible from Belgium. I
> made sure to be able to safeguard both BAG and GRB data for those.
>
> I've written a tool to import GRB shapefiles and merge address data that
> comes with it. I still need to write a blog post on all that research,
> I'm lacking some time.
>
> Basically, we need to import the shape file in JOSM, save it as an osm
> (xml). and then run it through the (CLI) script to adapt the keys/tag's
> to osm and to merge basic address information to the node. There are
> .DBF (yes, that will be dbase ) files included when getting a full
> export, but that isn't perfect, there are still issues with both GRB
> addresses and CRAB, but it's a great way to not having to do it manually.
>
> We have introduced a set of tags, after some discussion with Sander, I
> believe is enough to start with. See
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/384159892#map=19/51.20779/4.07462
>
> Stekene has been the testing grounds for the import, since it was quite
> the empty place.
>
> >
> > At this moment someone is working on converting the GRB data into
> > something that can be "easily" imported.
> >
> > I've put "easily" between quotes, because it will still be a lot of
> > work in areas where there are already buildings. The reason is that
> > we should try to keep the history and data of the existing
> > buildings. With data I mean POI info, heritage information, house
> > name, 3D, building type, etc. Even when there is no information, it
> > is polite to keep the names of the previous mappers in the history
> > of the OSM way. I do not like an approach where all existing data is
> > deleted.
>
>
> This is to be done with JOSM plugins, "Replace geometry" . that plugin
> is the whole center of the solution. This way you get to keep the
> history too.
>
> >
> > I have been replacing old AND data and buildings that I had traced
> > from Bing imagery with data based on AGIV aerial images and recently
> > with GRB data. It is labor intensive.
>
> Yes, but this source part is automated well.
>
> >
> > The scenario that I follow is
> >
> > * move the old house out of the way
> > * redraw based on GRB
> > * replace geometry of old building with new (from utilsplugin2).
> > this keeps the history
> > * drop source=AND
> > * add building type based on aerial images and add address (address
> > from AGIV) using housenumbertool
>
> The way to do it is :
>
> -preparse the shape file and save as xml (osm) in JOSM
> - to adapt keys add addressing, run the tool, it will create the
> correct tags.
> -use 2 layers, copy/paste from 1 layer to the existing layers (just
> overlay)
> -run the validator, fix the warnings first, select crossing buildings,
> and press CTRL-Shift-G (Replace geometry). Done!
> - Fix other warnings (there are plenty, but fixable)
>
> Building type is automated.
>
> >
> > Sometimes (with a lot of connected houses), I just try to reshape
> > the old building way, because moving all houses out of the way is
> > more difficult.
> >
> > With an import you do not have to do the drawing, but you still need
> > to do the replace geometry. The other steps that you have to perform
> > depends on the import data: is the building type correct ? is the
> > address data already merged ?
> >
> > Since this is so much work to correct, it's a pitty to see that some
> > power mappers are rushing through the current address data and only
> > add rough approximations of the buildings. L-shaped buildings become
> > rectangles, in terraces half of the buildings are ignored.
> > Correcting this afterwards, might take more time than trying to do
> > it correctly the first time around.
>
> Drawing buildings at the moment is indeed making it harder, but it's a
> very good check for every building.
>
> Here's a text dump of what the tool does:
>
> > glenn at slicky:~/Downloads/stekene/Shapefile$ ./grb2osm.php -f
> TblAdpAdr46024B500.dbf,TblGbgAdr46024B500.dbf -i stekkie.xml -o stek.osm
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:09 [23849]:[3]notic - [OsmTool::open_db] - Start
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:09 [23849]:[2]info - [OsmTool::open_db] - Trying to
> open DBase DB TblAdpAdr46024B500.dbf
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:09 [23849]:[2]info - [OsmTool::open_db] - Opened
> TblAdpAdr46024B500.dbf
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:09 [23849]:[3]notic - [OsmTool::open_db] - Reading
> records...
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:09 [23849]:[3]notic - [OsmTool::open_db] - Done. loaded
> (384)
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:09 [23849]:[3]notic - [OsmTool::open_db] -
> Postprocessing addresses.
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:09 [23849]:[3]notic - [OsmTool::open_db] - Flattened
> multiple records on oid.
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:09 [23849]:[3]notic - [OsmTool::open_db] - Cleaning
> up...
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:09 [23849]:[3]notic - [OsmTool::open_db] - Purged 'nvt'
> values .
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:09 [23849]:[3]notic - [OsmTool::open_db] - Start
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:09 [23849]:[2]info - [OsmTool::open_db] - Trying to
> open DBase DB TblGbgAdr46024B500.dbf
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:09 [23849]:[2]info - [OsmTool::open_db] - Opened
> TblGbgAdr46024B500.dbf
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:09 [23849]:[3]notic - [OsmTool::open_db] - Reading
> records...
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:10 [23849]:[3]notic - [OsmTool::open_db] - Done. loaded
> (8263)
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:10 [23849]:[3]notic - [OsmTool::open_db] -
> Postprocessing addresses.
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:10 [23849]:[3]notic - [OsmTool::open_db] - Flattened
> multiple records on oid.
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:10 [23849]:[3]notic - [OsmTool::open_db] - Cleaning
> up...
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:11 [23849]:[3]notic - [OsmTool::open_db] - Purged 'nvt'
> values .
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:11 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Loading OSM file ...
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:11 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Done ...
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:11 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Renaming GRB keys for
> ways/relations to OSM keys..
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:11 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Done.
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:11 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Parsing XML ...
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:11 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Done ...
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:11 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Analysing ways/relations
> having the source:geometry:oidn tag present...
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:11 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Deleting ways:
> [4491,4497,4500,4503,4507,4512,4514,4517,4520,4526,4529,4532,4533,4538,4542,4543,4548,4554,4559,4560,4561,4563,4567,4571,4573,4574,4575,4577,4582,4583,4586,4587,4589,4591,4597,4598,4606,4620,4622,4625,4626,4627,4628,4629,4638,4640,4643,4644,4649,4658,4660,4663,4669,4671,4672,4673,4675,4680,4681,4683,4689,4690,4694,4705,4716,4717,4722,4724,4728,4739,4755,4760,4762,4763,4776,4778,4788,4793,4795,4797,4803,4811,4813,4814,4819,4820,4822,4823,4829,4835,4840,4850,4854,4862,4868,4870,4873,4879,4882,4886,4891,4904,4905,4909,4912,4918,4920,4921,4926,4928,4930,4932,4937,4938,4944,4951,4958,4961,4971,4973,4979,4981,4985,4988,4991,4995,4997,4998,5011,5012,5014,5018,5019,5021,5024,5026,5027,5037,5038,5039,5040,5043,5053,5061,5065,5066,5067,5072,5075,5076,5082,5083,5091,5111,5122,5139,5156,5158,5161,5162,5166,5169,5173,5174,5180,5186,5187,5189,5192,5198,5201,5206,5211,5220,5222,5223,5226,5240,5241,5243,5246,5251,5253,5257,5260]...
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:11 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Done.
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:11 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Filtering deleted elements
> from XML ...
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:11 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Done.
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:11 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Generating new XML ...
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Done.
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Writing XML ...
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Done.
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Postprocessing new OSM XML
> file..
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Replacing OSM xml header
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - Filter namespace extras from
> OSM xml
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[3]notic - [] - done writing.
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct] matches = 0
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct] misses = 773
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> gbg_addressrecords = 10066
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> adp_addressrecords = 500
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> knw_addressrecords = 0
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> merged_huisnr = 2349
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> merged_busnr = 1452
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> merged_appartnr = 8
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> purge_single_nvt = 16048
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> address_records = 10566
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> counter_deleted_tags = 3092
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> multi_street_deleted = 44
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> empty_street_deleted = 0
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> counter_exist_addr = 0
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> counter_exist_street = 0
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> counter_exist_flats = 0
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> counter_exist_geometry = 0
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> counter_exist_source = 0
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> counter_exist_housenumber = 0
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> double_street_oids list
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> counter_flattened_huisnr = 389
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> counter_flattened_busnr = 208
> > 2016-01-21 08:47:12 [23849]:[1]core - [OsmTool::__destruct]
> counter_flattened_appartnr = 2
>
>
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