[OSM-talk-be] GR Flanders data available for mapping!

[eMerzh]

Congrats for the evengelisation !

hope this will help the southern's GR to be open as well ....

now... let's map them \o/

2016-06-02 23:22 GMT+02:00 Erik B <ebe050 at gmail.com>:

> Just take care with using the GPX files on the GR Vlaanderen website to
> *correct* GR routes on OpenStreetMap without further concerns.
> The GPX files on that GR website are not always up to date. You should at
> least take in account the route corrections 'Trajectwijzigingen' on the GR
> website
> <http://www.groteroutepaden.be/nl/route/45/gr-5-noordzee---middellandse-zee---deel-vlaanderen.html>
> .
> Those corrections are sometimes in the GPX file and sometimes they aren't.
> And sometimes the route has been changed in the field but those changes are
> not in the GPX file nor is there already a change description on the GR
> website.
> So using the GPX files on the GR website to correct GR routes on
> OpenStreetMap can lead to creating faults instead of correcting one.
> Checking in the field can't be improved.
>
> Some examples I recently encountered in Limburg:
>
>    -  the GR 561 between 'Dilserbos Parking' and Opoeteren. I had the GR
>    GPX on my GPS when I ran that track and discovered that the marks in the
>    field took me along a deviating route on some points.Afterwards I saw that
>    the deviations in the field are described as 'Trajectwijzigingen' on the GR
>    website but they weren't on the GPX.
>    - The GR5 between Bokrijk and Kinderboerderij Kiewit has been changed
>    in the field recently. It no longer follows a asphalt road but goes through
>    a meadow as other walking routes do. This change isn't on the GR website
>    but it is correct on Openstreetmap
>    <http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=16%2150.9625%215.3861>
>    http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#?map=16!50.9625!5.3861
>
> Besides corrections I see the advantage of using GR GPX files to put a GR
> route on Openstreetmap that was't tagged. But that is only possible for so
> far tracks or paths that are used are already on OSM. The qualification of
> those ways aren't on the the GPX file. You can only know them by following
> the GR in the field.
>
> But I like GR Vlaanderen because they already offer GPX files for free on
> their website. In contrary to GR Sentiers in Wallonie where you can only
> find the GPX files of GR's for free on Openstreetmap (
> Waymarkedtrails.org).
> <http://hiking.waymarkedtrails.org/#route?id=4580796&map=12%2150.6159%215.7517>
> And they are all far better than GR Sentiers France that forced
> Openstreetmap to delete the tagged GR's because of copyright protection in
> France (after a holiday in the south of France I put a major part of GR
> *Route* des *Cathares *on OSM. Meanwhile that GR relation that I did has
> been deleted but the paths that I added are still on the map. And there
> were new attempts to put that GR on OSM but for how long?).
>
> Regards,
>
> Erik
>
>
> what is on OSM it is result
> Op 02-06-16 om 19:10 schreef joost schouppe:
>
> Good news everyone! We're going on a long hike!
>
> After contacts initiated by Jo, licencing advice by Glenn and Ben, and a
> talk with Wouter and myself, the Flemish GR organization today gave us the
> explicit permission to use the GPX files of their routes for improving the
> GR routes mapped in OSM.
>
> This is only a first step, they are considering managing their route
> information completely within OpenStreetMap. I hope we can support them in
> this direction. There are all kinds of ways that they can help us grow our
> community, and ways in which we can support them. Feel free to start
> thinking out loud in this thread.
>
> Let's build something together which might inspire organisations worldwide
> to follow their lead.
>
> But enough with the emotions.
>
> I already added them to the Contributors wiki [1] and I have uploaded the
> supporting document to the wiki pages [2]. Maybe we can add a little
> section to some more Belgium wiki pages too?
> I made a little UMAP [3] to help with my first corrections [4]. It's a
> public map, so feel free to use it (and maybe make a simple tool out of it
> for tracking our progress in our cleanup?). I started adding
> #groteroutepaden to my changesets [4]. If we all do that, it might help
> make some cool statistics.
>
> The GPX files can be downloaded when you get to the page for an individual
> route at the bottom of the download section [5]. If you spot an error in
> the GPX or reality, you can send it to them here [6].
>
>
> 1:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Grote_Routepaden_.28long_distance_paths_Flanders.29
> 2: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Licentie_GR_OSM.pdf
> 3:
> http://umap.openstreetmap.fr/nl/map/gr-vlaanderen_88642#14/50.8065/4.6619
> 4:
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/39738478#map=15/50.7593/4.2846&layers=N
> 5: http://www.groteroutepaden.be/route.php?itemno=68
> 6: http://www.groteroutepaden.be/nl/meld-probleem.html
>
>
> --
> joost schouppe
>
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