[OSM-talk-be] Mapping Party: infrastructure for the homeless

Tue Mar 1 21:11:06 UTC 2016

Hi,

We mapped some "marchés gratuits" with this tag. The pitch of those
"marchés gratuits" : you can leave in a box items you do not need, and
other people might pick them.

There is a proposed feature for this :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Reuse

Example : http://1000bxlentransition.be/marche-gratuit/

Problem : some of them are permanent, some are only once/month (and I
didn't know it on Saturday - we should have prepared this.

What we could do :

- relaunch procedure for this tag proposal ;
- add some "opening hours" to explain when the market take place. But I
do not know how to map "the last Saturday of the month"...

Julien

Le 01/03/16 05:23, Marc Gemis a écrit :
> I noticed that you used amenity=resuse. According to taginfo [1], it
> is now used 19 times, most of them in Brussels. Would you mind
> documenting it on the wiki and explaining the meaning of this tag ?
> Otherwise part of your work might be hard to understand for data
> consumers.
> 
> regards
> 
> m
> 
> 
> 
> [1] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=reuse
> 
> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 5:24 PM, Julien Fastré <julien at fastre.info> wrote:
>> +1 :
>>
>> - this was an interesting meeting : a lot of new contributors, very
>> interested in OSM and the topic they were handling.
>> - we should have prepared the data and mapping before. A lot of things
>> are missing in term of existing tag and I see an opportunity to make our
>> databaser more rich ;
>> - Dewey is interested in OSM and will consider adapting their categories
>> to our tagging system; I think we have a lot of gain in helping them.
>>
>> This is a map of the most thing that were mapped since saturday morning
>> : [1], and the overpass query is there :
>> https://gist.github.com/julienfastre/c538a3983c6f8e133906 /!\ but it may
>> happen that some things are missing !!! /!\
>>
>> Julien
>>
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> http://overpass-turbo.eu/map.html?Q=%5Bout%3Ajson%5D%5Btimeout%3A50%5D%3B%0A%2F%2F%20fetch%20area%20%E2%80%9CBelgium%E2%80%9D%20to%20search%20in%0Aarea(3602404020)-%3E.searchArea%3B%0A%2F%2F%20gather%20results%0A(%0A%20%20%2F%2F%20query%20part%20for%3A%20%E2%80%9Cdrinking%20water%E2%80%9D%0A%20%20node%5B%22amenity%22%3D%22drinking_water%22%5D(area.searchArea)%3B%0A%20%20way%5B%22amenity%22%3D%22drinking_water%22%5D(area.searchArea)%3B%0A)-%3E.d%3B%0A%0A%2F%2F%20filter%20since%2010%20UTC%0A(%0Anode.d(changed%3A%222016-02-27T00%3A00%3A00Z%22)%3B%0Away.d(changed%3A%222016-02-27T00%3A00%3A00Z%22)%3B%0A)%20-%3E.drinking%3B%0A%0A%0A(%0A%20%20%2F%2F%20query%20part%20for%3A%20%E2%80%9Csocial%20facility%E2%80%9D%0A%20%20node%5B%22amenity%22%3D%22social_facility%22%5D(area.searchArea)%3B%0A%20%20way%5B%22amenity%22%3D%22social_facility%22%5D(area.searchArea)%3B%0A)-%3E.s%3B%0A%0A%2F%2F%20filter%20modified%20since%2010%20UTC%0A(%0A%20%20node.s(changed%3A%222016-02-27T00%3A00%3A00Z%22)%3B%0Awa
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>>
>> Le 28/02/16 09:16, Jo a écrit :
>>> I think the mapping party yesterday was quite a success. Still it could have been better, if we had been able to preview and preprocess the data. I added links to the Google Spreadsheet that open JOSM in the right spot now, but it's a bit "after the fact" > >
>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1S8-iYBLkmckprwQzetjzFn98I9ai1v2GZAYZLtHTbA4/edit#gid=1796817314
>>>> I had to use some 'magic' regular expressions incantations to
>> separate French from Dutch descriptions and to attempt to split the
>> addresses. They don't all follow the same structure, so this didn't work
>> very well. If we do this again, it would be better to have separate
>> columns for each potential tag we may want to use. > > Unfortunately I
>> was not able to answer most of the questions I got. It's a difficult
>> theme to start with and I feel our tagging is lacking a bit once you
>> want to go into specifics or when facilities fall in several categories
>> at once. > > On the one hand I think the participants did a great job,
>> but now it's important to have QC on their work, as we had to improvise
>> quite often. > > In the Google Docs spreadsheet, I added the tags I
>> believe we should have used, but if you use the links I created, you'll
>> find those are not always the ones that were used. > > I think, now it's
>> quite convenient to jump into the map, using those "Open in JOSM" links.
>> Are there contributors who want to have a look at them? > > Cheers, > >
>> Polyglot > > 2016-02-24 9:03 GMT+01:00 Julien Fastré <julien at fastre.info
>> <mailto:julien at fastre.info>>: > >
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Le 24/02/16 03:47, joost schouppe a écrit :
>>>> One hour is definitely enough IMHO, if you can focus on a limited
>>> number of tasks. For the Missing
>>> Maps, we have less than half an hour + a paper starters guide. I can
>>> send you the English version.
>>> I am really interested in your presentation !
>>>
>>> Julien
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