[OSM-talk-be] Missing Maps, in Belgium

[Glenn Plas]

There is the KBO, which you can consult for free but I strongly doubt
the license is OSM compatible.  they used to sell this data for an
insane amount of money.

http://economie.fgov.be/nl/ondernemingen/KBO/#.WCGss3UrJD8

you could probably deduct some of the shops data when their registered
office has the same address as the place of exploitation.

It's a real mess imho:

"KBO stelt zijn publieke gegevens beschikbaar aan iedereen, en dit op
verschillende manieren om zoveel mogelijk tegemoet te komen aan de
verschillende noden en technische capaciteiten van allen.Sommige van
deze diensten, zoals de toepassingen Public search, de mobile toepassing
en open data, zijn gratis. Andere diensten zoals de web services Public
search en het volledige publieke gegevensbestand dat ter beschikking
gesteld wordt voor hergebruik, zijn betalend."

So, only a few select services are 'open data'.  But it's all about the
same data.  There is the confusing statement: how can the data be open
when you close half of the access to it?  Also, the last part like
downloading the full database for a fee isn't true anymore, you can
download it for free.  So the site content isn't actualised on this subject.

I tried downloading it and next to the fact I had to 'state' what I was
going to use the data for, that answer limits my use.  So I entered
:"for creating a web application".  Turned out to be good enough...

It's truly speckeled with legal mumbo that makes it unusable for OSM,
but it's useful to double check with shop data manually.

http://economie.fgov.be/nl/ondernemingen/Intellectuele_Eigendom/Rechtsbescherming_databanken/bescherming_door_ie/#.WCGuIXUrJD8

Glenn


On 08-11-16 08:04, joost schouppe wrote:
>     As for Joost's suggestion for mapping shops in a town. Depending on
>     the data source, it might add too much out-of-date data. I fear that
>     armchair mappers will blindly copy the data without cross referencing
>     other sources that indicate that the shop was closed/moved. Using up
>     to date photo's from OpenStreetView or Mapillary could overcome this
>     problem, when the mapper is willing to spend enough time and does want
>     to be the mapper that finishes most tiles in the shortest period.
> 
> 
> There is no open data source for shops that I'm aware of, so this would
> in fact be a collect data + map task. There is of course the option of
> taking an area that is already densely mapped in Mapillary (say, central
> Brussels) and define a task there. Then the "validation" step would be
> to go into the field and collect the last bits of info.
> 
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