[OSM-talk-be] Road signs for reserved roads in Wiki and JOSM plug-in

[EeBi]

I have remarks about roadsign tags in the Belgian Wiki and a requests 
for help to add and correct some road signs in the JOSM RoadSigns plug-in:

 1.

    The tags for road signs F99a
    <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Belgium-trafficsign-f99a_foot_bicycle_horse.svg>
    and F99b
    <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Belgium-trafficsign-f99b_foot_bicycle.svg>
    (rectangular blue signs with apedestrians / abike and eventually a
    horse) proposed on OSM_Wiki/Road_signs_in_Belgium
    <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Belgium#F_Direction_and_information_signs>
    are wrong.
    The tag /access=destination/is completely wrong for these road
    signs. Vehicles only have access by exception, and therefore a
    written permission is required. See legal specifications in Dutch
    <http://wegcode.be/wetteksten/secties/kb/wegcode/184-art22quinquies>or
    in French
    <http://code-de-la-route.be/textes-legaux/sections/ar/code-de-la-route/184-art22quinquies>.
    This is in contrary to sign F99c
    <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Belgium-trafficsign-f99c_foot_horse_bicycle.svg>
    (that also has a tractor on it). This sign allows the access to
    motor vehicles to get to surrounding fields. Some additional
    explanation about the difference between F99a/b and F99c see [1].

    The tags for F99a and F99b are going to be corrected on the Wiki as
    described below, unless there are objections.

 2.

    As road signs F99a and F99b are often used for tourist cycleways as
    RAVeL’s and similar in Wallonie it would be helpful if someone could
    add these signs to the JOSM Plug-in: _Road__S__igns _Belgium_._ This
    plug-in is a really a help for faster tagging keys by just selecting
    a road sign in an overview (and Belgium is one of the 5 countries
    where this plug-in exists for) but adding missing road signs to this
    plug-in seems to be very complicated.


→Request for additional Belgian Road for reserved roads in the JOSM 
plug-in RoadSigns:

  *

    F99a - version with pedestrian and bicycle
    sign ref="BE:F99a"
    name="Road reserved for bicycles and pedestrians"
    nl.name="Weg voorbehouden voor fietsers en voetgangers">
    fr.name="Chemin réservé aux cyclistes et piétons">
    <tag key="bicycle" value="designated"/>
    <tag key="foot" value="designated"/>

  *

    F99a - version with pedestrian, bicycle and horse
    sign ref="BE:F99a"
    name="Road reserved for bicycles, pedestrians and horses"
    nl.name="Weg voorbehouden voor fietsers, voetgangers en ruiters">
    fr.name="Chemin réservé aux cyclistes et piétons et cavaliers">
    <tag key="bicycle" value="designated"/>
    <tag key="foot" value="designated"/>
    <tag key="horse" value="designated"/>

  *

    F99b – with bicycle and pedestrian segregated
    sign ref="BE:F99b"
    name="Reserved road split for bicycles and pedestrians"
    nl.name="Voorbehouden weg met scheiding voor fietsers en voetgangers">
    fr.name="Voies séparées réservé aux cyclistes et piétons">
    <tag key="bicycle" value="designated"/>
    <tag key="foot" value="designated"/>
    <tag key="segregated" value="yes"/>


→Request for some additional road signs in JOSM Roadsigns plug-in Belgium:

     Subboards “Uitgezonderd plaatselijk verkeer” for traffic sign C3
     sign ref="BE:2Type_IV"
     name="Except for residents"
     nl.name="Uitgezonderd plaatselijk verkeer"
     supplementary="yes"
     tag key="vehicle" value="destination"
     tag key="bicycle" value="yes"

     Subboards “Excepte circulation locale” for traffic sign C3
     sign ref="BE:2Type_IV"
     name="Except for residents"
     fr.name="Excepte circulation locale"
     supplementary="yes"
     tag key="vehicle" value="destination"
     tag key="bicycle" value="yes"

→Request for correction in RoadSigns plug-in of tags for sign F103 
Pedestrian zone:
the sign used in the plug-in Pedestrian zone shows a bike and this means 
that bicycles are allowed at walking pace.
So an additional tag is required: tag key="bicycle" value="yes"


[1] http://www.mobielvlaanderen.be/overheden/artikel.php?id=1057


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