[OSM-talk-be] Another Nominatim fact

[André Pirard]

Hi,

That is exactly what I explained several times before (Nominatim's
behavior, not that feature).
I put it that what that feature does is: if name:ll=* is missing produce
an implicit one with the same value as name=*.
This means (assuming that name=* always exists), that a browser
configured with ll as one of its primary languages will always find a
name in language ll in a region where that language is primarily spoken
and is Nominatim's such "default".
Now, what you say about Flemish nl s also true for Walloon fr and our
eastern quiet and gentle friends' de.
So that if Nominatim is defining a language default "by country" as you
say, they really missed something.
They missed Belgium, they missed Switzerland, they missed Wales, they
missed the Spanish speaking South USA etc.

I have long thought of proposing a boundary=linguistic that would be
used, typically for the Belgian regions, in parallel with the
administrative ones and that would obviously be where Nominatim should
pick that "default" language.
But I have also long abandoned the idea of feeding OSM with well thought
out suggestions because, instead of trying to understand my goals and
possibly suggesting alternatives, my fellow contributors answer that
this is not the way "we" do it, or other denials, or that I'm out of
topic or even that I'm accusing people to "do bad job".

Let it be, as the Beatles said.
Cheers

André.


On 2016-09-29 05:20, Marc Gemis wrote:
> Here's another fact about Nominatim that I learned after a private
> conversation with Sarah.
>
> Nominatim has the possibility to install a default language for a
> country. This is not done for Belgium, but can be done for The
> Netherlands. Right now, the list is not complete and The Netherlands
> is missing.
>
> What is the result ? In case you configure multiple languages in your
> browser, e.g. NL & DE, you will see DE results in case there is a
> DE-name and no explicit NL-name. This is the case for Zutphen.
>
> What will be the impact for Belgium ? Suppose a Flemish town is mapped
> as name=X and name:fr=Y . You install both NL and FR in your browser.
> A search will now return Y.
>
> This means we might have to map name:NL explicitly. I know some will
> consider this as mapping for the tool. Nominatim has no way (I asked)
> to do this on other levels than countries. So there is no possibility
> to tell it the default language for Flanders or Wallonia.
>
> Hope this explains why in some case you get unexpected results from
> Nominatim search
>
> regards
>
> m
>
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