[OSM-talk-be] Do you Tag those as cycleway?

[Yves bxl-forever]

Hello,

It may be a good idea to freshen up the pages on the wiki to remove all confusion about this.
Perhaps we could summarize all the discussions as such.


1) If a street is one-way for motor traffic but open to cyclists in both direction, we use this:

	oneway=yes
	oneway:bicycle=no

(This scheme is better than the legacy cycleway=opposite tag, because it also allows to add oneway:moped_P=no if we have the new M11 roadsign allowing speed pedelecs too.)



2) A properly-marked lane (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Cycleway_lane1_be.jpg), i.e. stripped lines
In Belgian traffic rules, this is the same as a track (fietspad/piste cyclable) and gives right-of-way to cyclists

	cycleway=lane

	(if cyclists can use the street in both directions, use cycleway:left
	or cycleway:right if the situation is not the same on both sides)



3) Just logos (http://redac.cuk.ch/archives_v3/5237/bandecyclablesuggeree.png) or color, but without the stripped lines
This is the example eMerzh brought up to start the discussion.
This situation does not do anything with regard to traffic rules, but is useful for cycling applications because it feels a little safer than a street with nothing.

	cycleway=shared_lane
 



What do you think?
Yves



On Sat, 30 Sep 2017 18:08:21 +0000
marc marc <marc_marc_irc at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> Le 30. 09. 17 à 18:36, joost schouppe a écrit :
> > I think everyone agreed that this is nothing more than "maquillage"  
> not me, not always :)
> 
> > https://www.google.be/maps/@50.8674422,4.3297542,3a,60y,141.06h,86.52t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1srWr6HwmC8P9LgEfOSk2Xpg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656  
> this traffic sign is not a "maquillage".
> It is the traffic sign that tells you that another traffic sign at the 
> other end of the street allows a cyclist to take the one-way street.
> If this mark did not exist, you do not know it when going forward
> in this street in the "one-way" direction.
> 
> > https://www.google.be/maps/@50.8676849,4.3295925,3a,75y,183.24h,93.62t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sLOB7wV_P3Sqi3kbypjpQcw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656  
> here is the second traffic sign.
> 
> > https://www.touring.be/fr/articles/regles-de-circulation-pour-les-cyclistes  
> Without any sign, a cyclist can not go backward in a "one-way" street.
> 
> maybe the regionalization of the road code has ***** the situation but 
> that is, as far as I know, the rule in Brussels where is the street of 
> the first photo.
> 
> So this street should be tagged with cycleway=opposite. see wiki :
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway
> Use cycleway=opposite for situations where cyclists are permitted to 
> travel in both directions on a road which is one-way for normal traffic, 
> in situations where there is no dedicated contra-flow lane marked for 
> cyclists.
> 
> Regards,
> Marc
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