[OSM-talk-be] How to request arbitration?

Karel Adams fa348739 at skynet.be
Mon Apr 2 10:01:36 UTC 2018


Thanks Jo, that brought a smile!

The crux of the matter is of course that I can NOT fly into it, it being 
so private as to be almost secretive. In fact I am wondering more and 
more why these guys so vehemently refuse to give this airstrip a name, 
it really feels like something is being hushed up. Or then perhaps they 
wish to abide by the rules very strictly, kind of "Befehl ist Befehl" :) 
Not the kind of atmosphere I'll choose for a destination. And no, I'll 
not bother to further improve our database in that area.

That I figured in WeeklyOSM is nice but perhaps my next appearance could 
be more positive ;)

Smiling regards,

KA


On 02/04/18 08:51, Jo wrote:
> Karel, you are going to have to fly over to that airstrip and put up a 
> large sign next to it . Photograph it and hope it catches on among the 
> local population... (That's how I read Frederik Ramms comment)
>
> I didn't look at the changeset. We have a description tag, if it's a 
> description and not a name. Of course if it's only in English, maybe 
> description:en?
>
> Anyway, you made it into WeeklyOSM.
>
> Jo
>
> 2018-04-02 7:57 GMT+02:00 Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com 
> <mailto:marc.gemis at gmail.com>>:
>
>     Did you contact the owner of the airfield to find out how they name it
>     ? Did you find a sign along the street pointing to the airfield with a
>     name ? Is there a name sign at the entrance ? Is there an official
>     document  from a government which mentions a name ?
>
>     If all of those questions return false, i.e. no name, then the
>     airfield has no name. Maybe there are a few other places where we can
>     look for the item of items, but making them up from ones armchair is
>     certainly not one of them.
>
>     No everybody gives their house, private tennis court, driveway or
>     airfield a name. So noname=yes might be the only thing we can do. We
>     should not make up names as "Airfield of Family Anderson", "Airfield
>     near road N111" or whatever.
>
>     Regards
>
>     m.
>
>
>     p.s. @Pieter, SomeoneElse, who participates in the changeset
>     discussion is member of the DWG.
>
>     On Sun, Apr 1, 2018 at 11:08 PM, Karel Adams <fa348739 at skynet.be
>     <mailto:fa348739 at skynet.be>> wrote:
>     > I am in a bitter dispute with a couple of mappers who absolutely
>     refuse to
>     > accept a "name=*" tag on an aerodrome because officially it has
>     no name -
>     > indeed it figures in no official document.
>     >
>     > My point of view is that an "invented" name - which can be
>     discussed, of
>     > course - is better than no name at all but they are quite
>     adamant. How to
>     > address this?
>     >
>     > For the details: see
>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57717417
>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57717417> and
>     > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/573934869
>     <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/573934869>
>     >
>     > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names
>     <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names> has been called in but
>     I found
>     > nothing there to indicate only official names should be mentioned.
>     >
>     > This seems really a case for arbitration, but how to request it?
>     >
>     > Karel
>     >
>     >
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