[OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

Tue Apr 28 08:51:01 UTC 2020

Hello Joost,

Most likely we will begin next week to edit on the map. We will keep you all up to date with our progress and any edits that we might do.

Thank you for your support.

p.s.  It’s nice too hear you visited Cluj-Napoca. If it has been a long time ago, the city has developed quite fast.

From: joost schouppe <joost.schouppe at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 1:10 PM
To: Adrian Budugan <adrian.budugan at telenav.com>
Cc: OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

Hi Adrian,

Looking forward to your help! Do post here or on our Riot when you start the real work.

Error fixing is always helpful. Having looked at the Improve OSM tools, I don't see how it could help you much? OpenStreetCam is rather limited in Belgium (most of us contribute to Mapillary instead, but the day someone provides a server that feeds both projects, I'm sure we'll switch to that!). And for the Cygnus tool, you need government data. There is road geometry, but the differences are largely because the official data is lagging. I'm not aware of Brussels traffic sign data.

Best,
Joost
p.s. I really enjoyed CLuj Napoca when I was there many years ago

Op do 23 apr. 2020 om 11:46 schreef Adrian Budugan <adrian.budugan at telenav.com<mailto:adrian.budugan at telenav.com>>:
Hello Joost,

Thank you for your reply and for the info provided. Considering that we will be working remotely, we are always checking the history of the edits before making any changes. We also decided to first rely on notes, as you suggested, and edit only where we are 100% sure.

We will be fixing errors  using the Keep Right tool and add one ways and turn restrictions using Improve OSM.

We will keep in touch as much as it is needed and thank you again for your feedback.

Kind Regards,
Adrian

From: joost schouppe <joost.schouppe at gmail.com<mailto:joost.schouppe at gmail.com>>
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2020 9:14 PM
To: OpenStreetMap Belgium <talk-be at openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-be at openstreetmap.org>>
Cc: Adrian Budugan <adrian.budugan at telenav.com<mailto:adrian.budugan at telenav.com>>
Subject: Re: [OSM-talk-be] Telenav Mapping Project

Hi Adrian,

To add to that, there's an overview of all the channels at our local chapter's website: https://openstreetmap.be/en/contact.html<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2fopenstreetmap.be%2fen%2fcontact.html&c=E,1,6kwsDd2Yju2zANx8QqyDeIpPgudJlWTFGSk2vDYWqv-tFHc3MdQSguWOma8B215cFAKxQyUfim9cGWnc0Ix45aiFaEOM-fMBhfvI62g7LcNGPFQbRF441CYB9JBh&typo=1>

We have decent Mapillary coverage, but are constantly looking to get more and better cameras for our volunteers (hint, hint).
There is good and recent imagery (properly indexed both in the imagery layer index and the JOSM index). There are also good basemaps from the government, which you can use for mapping.

As always, both imagery and basemaps can be outdated - sometimes OSM is ahead, sometimes it isn't. There's quite an active community, so be mindful of the last edit date on object (I should know, I recently messed up JanFi's work).

What data will you be basing your edits on? I would think that Brussels is mapped pretty well, so it might be hard to improve remotely.
It might be useful to start off with just Notes, so that we can review them locally. That might avoid any editing conflict.
I think the most active mapper in Brussels is bxl-forever, might be useful to engage him directly.

Joost

Op wo 22 apr. 2020 om 20:01 schreef Pieter Vander Vennet <pietervdvn at posteo.net<mailto:pietervdvn at posteo.net>>:

Hello Adrian and Telenav-team.

Welcome in Belgium, the more support, the merrier.

First of all, there is quite an active community in Belgium - I'm one of them, as are several others. As already mentioned, the matrix-chat is an excellent way to reach out to us and have questions answered quite fast - please join us here: https://riot.im/app/#/room/#osmbe:matrix.org<https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https%3a%2f%2friot.im%2fapp%2f%23%2froom%2f%2523osmbe%3amatrix.org&c=E,1,ZGkjBhrLWkoupaR9yIk86KcQhWoz7dIRHHQIhynjwPUyZM7AtLEHNTtG4XoOIe6vMoTPy5YVYARE5VaR51HpCmFo6U_hKpYs6455_jpr5fdoWEs,&typo=1>

Second, I was wondering where you are based - the best way to map is by using local knowledge and by running around to see what the situation is. Also, being here IRL will allow us to meetup or to get in touch with the OpenKnowledge Belgium - they do great work for Open Source and Open Data.

However, I presume that you will mostly be doing remote work, based on official data and mapillary streetview. This too can be useful, but the situation of Brussels is quite volatile and might change a lot. Don't be afraid to to ask us (or a local) to check up on the situation.

At last, a lot of cyclists are using OSM in Brussels - the company I work for even hosts  a professional cycle route planner for the city. Please, be careful not to break it. Especially when adding 'oneway=yes', this might force the routeplanner to consider this oneway for cyclists as well. Please, if it is clear that cyclists are allowed to go both ways, add 'oneway:bicycle=no' or, even better, add the appropriate cycleway tags ('cycleway=lane', 'cycleway=track', ...)

Kind regards,
Pietervdvn

On 22.04.20 13:08, Adrian Budugan wrote:

Hi all,

I am Adrian and I am part of the Mapping Team at Telenav. Our team started an editing project in Belgium to make OpenStreetMap more navigable and accurate in guidance.

We will start editing in Brussels at the end of April, next week. There are more details here - https://github.com/TelenavMapping/EU_mapping_projects/issues/4.

We will focus on one ways, turn restrictions, road geometry and quality assurance.

We we'd love to hear your advice on any local mapping guidelines, besides the general OSM mapping ones (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page, http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features).

Also, we appreciate any hints regarding available local or government data that we might be able to us or anything else that might come in handy.

If there are any other OSM communication channels for Belgium, please let us know.

If you have any questions or comments, please let me/us know.

We are looking forward to hearing from you.

Thank you!

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