[OSM-talk-be] privacy ed

Sander Deryckere sanderd17 at gmail.com
Fri May 15 20:50:23 UTC 2020


Taking a picture is usually not illegal indeed. But sharing it in many
cases is. Next to the privacy regulations already mentioned, people can ask
to take pictures of their property offline on Google Streetview.

Google certainly has a good legal team, and blurring those pictures does
cost some money. So there must be a good reason why they comply to the
request (as opposed to blurring of areal imagery of military sites, which
they refused for many years).

And in Belgium, most buildings even have copyright on them: the architect
who designed the building had complete copyright, including on any pictures
taken from the roadside. A famous example of this is that spreading
pictures of the Atomium is forbidden without paying a license fee.

Luckily, most of these laws require the "victim" to request to take it
offline. Certainly if you make no money from it, it's very unlikely this
will have legal consequences. If there are legal consequences, they're even
more likely for the platform hosting the images instead of the uploader.

So if you just use common sense and blur faces and license plates,
everything should be ok.

Op vr 15 mei 2020 20:33 schreef Jo <winfixit at gmail.com>:

> Not only their faces, also license plates. And if you're doing it manually
> maybe also stickers with recognisable information.
>
> Jo
>
> On Fri, May 15, 2020, 19:38 Marc Gemis <marc.gemis at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I see no difference between contributing to OpenStreetMap via JOSM and
>> iD or StreetComplete.
>> Mapping a house, street, waste bin, etc. will not break any privacy.
>> We do not map the names of the inhabitants of a house. Mapping items
>> from someone's garden based on aerial imagery might be on the
>> borderline of what is allowed. However, I do map sheds, ponds and
>> swimming pools.
>>
>> Taking pictures of people is not a problem, it's what you do with them
>> afterwards that is important. If you use the image yourself and map
>> the things you see on them from your PC, it doesn't matter that there
>> are people.
>> If you post the image on a public website (as you do via
>> StreetComplete), you have to make sure that there are no people or
>> that their faces are blurred (e.g. uploading to Mapillary is OK I
>> think).
>>
>> Of course, you cannot enter private grounds.
>>
>> On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 3:49 PM wbrt <wbrt at insiberia.net> wrote:
>> >
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > a question about privacy of people in general (not the mapper) (in
>> Belgium)
>> >
>> > when contributing using for example streetcomplete:
>> https://github.com/westnordost/StreetComplete
>> > answering the questions, i suppose this is ok juridical?
>> >
>> > when taking pictures to make it clear for the mappers,
>> > i guess this also ok, as long as people are not recognizable in it?
>> >
>> > or am i wrong?
>> > and can you get in trouble for contributing to openstreetmap?
>> >
>> > The info i found:
>> >
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Limitations_on_mapping_private_information
>> >
>> > kr
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