[Talk-br] Fwd: OpenStreetMap Parking Proposal

Claudomiro Nascimento Junior claudomiro em claudomiro.com
Sábado Abril 24 15:43:51 BST 2010


correto,

mas e as tags que o editor "ainda" não conhece? é uma abordagem um
pouco frágil, acharia melhor uma referencia "espacial" tipo
tag_name:SW, tag_name:NE - mas aí o usuário tem que ter a noção dos
pontos cardeais no local.

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Arlindo Pereira
<openstreetmap em arlindopereira.com> wrote:
> Acho que isso é algo que o editor deveria ter a inteligência de notar e
> inverter a tag. Tipo um "don't tag for the editor" ao invés de "renderer" :D
>
> []s
>
> 2010/4/24 Claudomiro Nascimento Junior <claudomiro em claudomiro.com>
>>
>> no esquema right/left, mesmo,
>>
>> não gosto muito disso não. o cara inverte a via e aí direita vira
>> esquerda e ferra tudo
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Arlindo Pereira
>> <openstreetmap em arlindopereira.com> wrote:
>> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Kay_D/parking
>> >
>> > []s
>> >
>> > 2010/4/24 Claudomiro Nascimento Junior <claudomiro em claudomiro.com>
>> >>
>> >> onde está a documentação das tag propostas? queria ver como ele
>> >> resolve a questão de lado direito/lado esquerdo
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Arlindo Pereira
>> >> <openstreetmap em arlindopereira.com> wrote:
>> >> > Olha so que foda a proposta de tagueamento para estacionamentos que o
>> >> > cara
>> >> > fez! Com rendering e tudo... :)
>> >> >
>> >> > http://parking.openstreetmap.de/
>> >> >
>> >> > []s
>> >> >
>> >> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> >> > From: Arlindo Pereira <contato em arlindopereira.com>
>> >> > Date: 2010/4/23
>> >> > Subject: Re: OpenStreetMap Parking Proposal
>> >> > To: Kay Drangmeister <kay em drangmeister.net>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi there Kay, sorry for the long time I took to answer. Happy with
>> >> > the
>> >> > message. Have you been to SoTM 2009? I was there :)
>> >> >
>> >> > I really liked your proposal, way more than mine with underline,
>> >> > because
>> >> > if
>> >> > a parser doesn't know about parking:lane but knows about parking=yes,
>> >> > one
>> >> > could deduce that parking:* means there's some kind of parking,
>> >> > instead
>> >> > of a
>> >> > different tag like with underscore.
>> >> >
>> >> > Would you mind moving the page from under your User:page so we can
>> >> > work
>> >> > together with this proposal?
>> >> >
>> >> > I'm also slowly changing mine parking_lane to parking:lane (do you
>> >> > suggest a
>> >> > quick tool to do this?)
>> >> >
>> >> > Also, I loved that you already hacked Mapnik to render your proposal.
>> >> > Would
>> >> > you mind rendering this area -
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-22.9239&lon=-43.1784&zoom=14&layers=B000FTF
>> >> > - so I can see how it looks like? I live where the map is centered,
>> >> > so
>> >> > many
>> >> > roads are already tagged with parking_lane (and will be changed to
>> >> > parking:lane ASAP, perhaps when you're reading this I've already
>> >> > manually
>> >> > changed on Potlatch)
>> >> >
>> >> > 2010/4/21 Kay Drangmeister <kay em drangmeister.net>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hello Arlindo,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I'm trying with another email address, because the first one
>> >> >> might not have worked. Please see below :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Best regards,
>> >> >> Kay
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ---------------------
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hello Nighto!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Warm greetings from Germany. I am very happy that there's another
>> >> >> similar thinking OSMer halfway around the globe. I just read about
>> >> >> your parking proposal, and I very much like it.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I was thinking about quite some time now (a year or so) about the
>> >> >> very same thing, and came up with a proposal that's almost identical
>> >> >> to your one, just replace the : in my proposal with _ in yours :-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Please have a look:
>> >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Kay_D/parking
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I was somewhat reluctant to make it an official proposal before I
>> >> >> was
>> >> >> able to put up a rendering on a big server. I managed to prepare
>> >> >> a rendering on my PC at home, and I already have allocated space
>> >> >> on a development server at the osm site.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Please also have a look here:
>> >> >> http://parking.openstreetmap.de/
>> >> >>
>> >> >> (Please note: this is still my private PC, slow, sometimes down and
>> >> >> all
>> >> >> that. It is to be replaced in a couple of days with the osm
>> >> >> database.)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I would be very happy if we could combine our efforts. I am a bit
>> >> >> limited
>> >> >> in my knowledge about all the possible parking conditions (I only
>> >> >> know
>> >> >> the german and english ones).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Would you mind merging our two pages to one official proposal?
>> >> >> Please
>> >> >> note that although our syntax looks a bit different, it is
>> >> >> essentially
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> same, and although I like a bit the : because it looks like xml
>> >> >> namespace,
>> >> >> and is already used e.g. in the address tags (please see
>> >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Address) my programming could be
>> >> >> easily changed, if you wish.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I could provide you with the main proposal text and some discussion
>> >> >> text here:
>> >> >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User_talk:Kay_D/parking
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you already have entered some tags on streets, I would be very
>> >> >> happy to extend the map data to your county (currently I only have
>> >> >> bavaria, a part of germany; a large part of Würzburg is tagged).
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I think people will only accept a proposal if they can test
>> >> >> rendering
>> >> >> themselves, so I hope I can help you/us with our proposal with it!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Kind greetings from Würzburg in Germany,
>> >> >> Kay
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
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