[Talk-br] Lixo na base

Erick de Oliveira Leal erickdeoliveiraleal em gmail.com
Quarta Março 26 01:46:50 UTC 2014 

John Packer, funcionou perfeito o fechamento dos colchetes


Em 25 de março de 2014 22:45, Erick de Oliveira Leal <
erickdeoliveiraleal em gmail.com> escreveu:

> Balão com nome das vias que o cruzam é certo?
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/194463958
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/194768614
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/194768711
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/194511274
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/194800259
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/194774952
>
>
> Em 25 de março de 2014 22:07, John Packer <john.packer7 em gmail.com>escreveu:
>
> Pessoal, acabei de testar aqui, então para referência futura:
>> Para modificar resultados de uma consulta no Overpass usando o JOSM, tem
>> que:
>> - ter o JOSM aberto, e com a preferência de controle remoto<http://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/Help/Preferences/RemoteControl>habilitada.
>> - pedir para o resultado vir em XML ( <osm-script output="xml"> )
>> - ir em "Export" -> load into JOSM
>>
>>
>> Em 25 de março de 2014 21:57, Erick de Oliveira Leal <
>> erickdeoliveiraleal em gmail.com> escreveu:
>>
>> Eu já tinha enviado um erro no github... vou testar mais tarde sua
>>> solução.
>>>
>>>
>>> Em 25 de março de 2014 21:53, John Packer <john.packer7 em gmail.com>escreveu:
>>>
>>> Coloca *|]* no final ao invés de dentro dos colchetes
>>>>
>>>> [_´`:,|!@#%¨¹²³£¢§¬\^\?\=\*\$\+\[\}\{\~><&\\]|]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> É o seguinte, um monte de caracteres entre colchetes quer dizer:
>>>> qualquer caractere dentro deste intervalo (que são os caracteres)
>>>> o *|]* quer dizer: OU o caractere fecha-colchete
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Em 25 de março de 2014 21:39, Erick de Oliveira Leal <
>>>> erickdeoliveiraleal em gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>
>>>> Alguém sabe como escapar o caracter ] ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Aqui: <osm-script output="json">
>>>>>     <query type="way">
>>>>>       <has-kv k="highway"/>
>>>>>       <has-kv k="name"/>
>>>>>       <has-kv k="name"
>>>>>  regv="[_´`:,|!@#%¨¹²³£¢§¬\^\?\=\*\$\+\]\[\}\{\~><&\\]"/>
>>>>>       <bbox-query {{bbox}}/>
>>>>>     </query>
>>>>>   <print mode="body"/>
>>>>>   <recurse type="down"/>
>>>>>   <print mode="skeleton"/>
>>>>> </osm-script>
>>>>>
>>>>> Se retirar o \] ele encontra os objetos, senão ele retorna nulo.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Em 25 de março de 2014 18:44, Erick de Oliveira Leal <
>>>>> erickdeoliveiraleal em gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> O que fiz nos nomes de vias...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Caracteres em todas posições: [ ] { } ´ ` ~ :  ? > < , | \ = + * ! @
>>>>>> # $ % ¨ ¹²³£¢§¬
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Começo e fim em: espaço / -
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Começo em: ponto final
>>>>>>
>>>>>> E também espaços duplos
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mas sempre fica algo de fora...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Não consegui fazer do &
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Em 25 de março de 2014 17:01, Roger C. Soares <rogersoares em gmail.com>escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Os meus foram:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/21305113
>>>>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/21304467
>>>>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/21303588
>>>>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/21297490
>>>>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/21297472
>>>>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/21297420
>>>>>>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/21297200
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>>>>>>> Roger.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Em 25-03-2014 13:27, John Packer escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Se puderem, mandem os links dos conjuntos de alteração que estão
>>>>>>> fazendo.
>>>>>>>  Não acho que vá precisar de alguma correção, é só pra os outros
>>>>>>> estarem cientes das mudanças que estão sendo feitas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Em 25 de março de 2014 13:22, Erick de Oliveira Leal <
>>>>>>> erickdeoliveiraleal em gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Eu retirei o acento circunflexo para que ele ache o ? em qualquer
>>>>>>>> lugar... Ainda restam alguns nomes... Deletando agora...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Em 25 de março de 2014 12:11, Roger C. Soares <
>>>>>>>> rogersoares em gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  A pedido, a query que eu usei no overpass-turbo foi:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <osm-script output="json">
>>>>>>>>>     <query type="way">
>>>>>>>>>       <has-kv k="highway"/>
>>>>>>>>>       <has-kv k="name"/>
>>>>>>>>>       <has-kv k="name"  regv="^\?+"/>
>>>>>>>>>       <bbox-query {{bbox}}/>
>>>>>>>>>     </query>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   <print mode="body"/>
>>>>>>>>>   <recurse type="down"/>
>>>>>>>>>   <print mode="skeleton"/>
>>>>>>>>> </osm-script>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Na Argentina por enquanto ainda retorna alguns casos.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>>>>>>>>> Roger.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Em 25-03-2014 01 <25-03-2014%2001>:30, Erick de Oliveira Leal
>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Opa que bom então. Valeu Nelson e Roger
>>>>>>>>> Em 25/03/2014 00:32, "Roger C. Soares" <rogersoares em gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  O overpass-turbo que o Nelson mandou realmente é muito bom. A
>>>>>>>>>> busca por highway+name com ? no Brasil todo foi bem mais rápida do que eu
>>>>>>>>>> esperava. Tinham poucos casos então já removi.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Atenciosamente,
>>>>>>>>>> Roger.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Em 24-03-2014 15:43, Fernando Trebien escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  2014-03-24 15:33 GMT-03:00 Erick de Oliveira Leal <
>>>>>>>>>> erickdeoliveiraleal em gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Erros onde o nome só contém caracteres do tipo ? eu tenho
>>>>>>>>>>> certeza q sim... rsrsrs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Heh, ok, este caso em particular poderia ser considerado um
>>>>>>>>>> erro. Mas daí não vale à pena o esforço de fazer um validador para um caso
>>>>>>>>>> que acontece só umas poucas vezes né. Melhor fazer um script que liste os
>>>>>>>>>> IDs objetos e depois nos permita editá-los manualmente, como você disse.
>>>>>>>>>> (Precisamos de scripts assim pra muitas outras coisas parecidas.)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Mas ainda seria mais interessante um script que nos desse os
>>>>>>>>>>> ids dos objetos com erros e fizessemos uma força tarefa para corrigi-los.
>>>>>>>>>>> Mas acho que os erros do tipo sem logradouro são muitos, então esses teriam
>>>>>>>>>>> que ser postergados. Agora só corrigiriamos esses casos estranhos mesmo.
>>>>>>>>>>> Mas tem algum jeito de encontrar isso fácil?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Em 24 de março de 2014 15:22, Fernando Trebien <
>>>>>>>>>>> fernando.trebien em gmail.com> escreveu:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Erros são matemáticos. Você tem certeza absoluta de que todos
>>>>>>>>>>>> esses casos, sem exceção, presente ou futura, constituem erros?
>>>>>>>>>>>>  On Mar 24, 2014 2:29 PM, <thundercel em gpsinfo.com.br> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Os erros existentes são fatos e requerem correção.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Na minha opinião correção automática até porque são tantos que
>>>>>>>>>>>>> uma correção manual, com poucos colaboradores, exigiria muito esforço e
>>>>>>>>>>>>> tempo.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Corrigiríamos os existentes, mas como evitar que novos surjam?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Continuo defendendo a função VALIDADOR (como erro e não aviso)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> quando da edição. Pelo menos por meio dele novos erros desse tipo não devem
>>>>>>>>>>>>> voltar a ocorrer.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> []s
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Marcio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  *From:* Fernando Trebien <fernando.trebien em gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 24, 2014 1:52 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *To:* OpenStreetMap no Brasil <talk-br em openstreetmap.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-br] Lixo na base
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Mas vocês querem fazer isso para todo o Brasil de forma
>>>>>>>>>>>>> automática ou deixar para cada um na sua cidade fazer? Nem 1% das cidades
>>>>>>>>>>>>> brasileiras tem representantes aqui na lista.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2014-03-24 13:23 GMT-03:00 John Packer <john.packer7 em gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>> >:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Dá para utilizar regex no overpass para obter ruas que não
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iniciem com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rua|Avenida|etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Esses dias eu corrigi via JOSM as ruas que não tinham
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nenhum prefixo na minha cidade.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  O filtro que eu utilizei era algo estilo: possui as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etiquetas `highway` e `name` e não pode começar com: Rua, Avenida,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Servidão, Ponte, Estrada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  E talvez precise de Beco (mas não foi o caso na minha
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cidade).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  Creio que seja seguro adicionar o prefixo "Rua " quando for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> verificado que não tem nenhum prefixo em uma rua.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>  2014-03-24 13:06 GMT-03:00 Nelson A. de Oliveira <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> naoliv em gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dá para utilizar regex no overpass para obter ruas que não
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iniciem com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rua|Avenida|etc
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fernando Trebien
>>>>>>>>>>>>> +55 (51) 9962-5409 <%2B55%20%2851%29%209962-5409>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months."
>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Moore's law)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "The speed of software halves every 18 months." (Gates' law)
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "The speed of computer chips doubles every 18 months." (Moore's
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>>>>>>>>>> "The speed of software halves every 18 months." (Gates' law)
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