[Talk-ca] Toronto's next mapping event...
Josh Hevenor
jhevenor at rogers.com
Tue Nov 18 18:40:58 GMT 2008
I'd be interested in attending an event in the west end
somewhere...burlington, oakville, hamilton. Somewhere on the GO line
would be preferred. I've been looking to get more involved since I met a
few of the OSM map guys at FOSS4G 2007. And I have a bike and most of
Oxford county to explore once I'm up to speed.
GeoBase import...I'd put my name in the hat to work on this. I'm just
lining up my schedule for the winter, but I should be able to put some
time in here. Let me know...
Josh
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> 1. Good work! (Mike Sherman)
> 2. Adding to Open Street Map on the cheap. (Colin McGregor)
> 3. Toronto's next mapping event... (Colin McGregor)
> 4. GeoBase update anyone? (Sam Vekemans)
> 5. Re: GeoBase update anyone? (Richard Weait)
> 6. Open Routing Service for Canada (Chris McGee)
> 7. Canadian data announcement: GeoBase Import (Richard Weait)
> 8. Re: Canadian data announcement: GeoBase Import
> (simon at mungewell.org)
> 9. Re: Canadian data announcement: GeoBase Import (Richard Weait)
> 10. Re: Canadian data announcement: GeoBase Import (Jason Reid)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:10:59 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Mike Sherman <mike.sherman at earthlink.net>
> Subject: [Talk-ca] Good work!
> To: OSM talk-ca <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>
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> Hello,
> I was in Calgary, AB last week and navigated around using a
> Nokia N810 with both Roadmap and Maemo-Mapper, both of which
> use Open Street Map maps. Very good maps! Thanks.
>
> Unfortunately, I didn't get much in the way of useful traces
> from the trip. Both programs are beta software, so there's a
> risk of loosing your traces. And I'm not quick enough with the
> camera to get the signs for roads not named on the maps.
>
> Notes to self
> 1. don't run 2 map programs and the GPS camera at the same time
> 2. remember to bring the car charger
>
> Thanks all,
> -Mike in Cleveland, OH, USA
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2008 09:33:53 -0400
> From: "Colin McGregor" <colin.mc151 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Talk-ca] Adding to Open Street Map on the cheap.
> To: talk-ca at openstreetmap.org
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> For those of you in (or near) southern Ontario, just thought I would
> note that Factory Direct (factorydirect.ca) had a flyer in last
> Saturday's Toronto Star newspaper (and I assume (though I don't know
> for certain) some other southern Ontario newspapers).
>
> In that flyer were two items of interest, a coupon that will let you
> get a copy of "Microsoft Streets & Trips 2006 with GPS locator" for
> $19.99 (buy the package, toss the software, the GPS locator does have
> Linux drivers :-) ). They also have "Microsoft Streets & Trips 2007
> with GPS locator" for $29.99. The difference between the locator
> included with the two editions is the 2007 version is somewhat smaller
> and is supposed to be a bit more sensitive.
>
> I used the 2006 edition locator to map most of the streets in Perth ON
> in September, locator on the dashboard, Linux running laptop in the
> front passenger seat, all of which worked quite well. Anyone with a
> laptop who wants to start playing with Open Street Map on a tight
> budget, well, this is just the ticket.
>
> Granted these GPS locators are a bad pick if you want to document
> trails... but for streets, as seen from a car or truck. these are
> great :-) .
>
>
> Colin McGregor
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 10:05:07 -0500
> From: "Colin McGregor" <colin.mc151 at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Talk-ca] Toronto's next mapping event...
> To: talk-ca at openstreetmap.org
> Cc: emily at momosa.com
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> Would like to do some more mapping parties in the Greater Toronto
> Area. Question is, when and where?
>
> To start, I gather that the folks at Cloud Made are willing to pick up
> the tab for a meetup.com event. The meetup.com people do some of the
> logistics re: e-mail reminders and the like. On the other hand I have
> doubts about do they offer good value for the $... In the mean time we
> need to think about the when and where type questions.
>
> The where I think should be somewhere outside the Toronto downtown.
> While there is clear room for improvement in the downtown map, the
> areas away from downtown are ... pretty sad. Still that leaves us with
> Scarborough, North York or Etobicoke. Anyone have a preference? With
> the following question, we will want a free location with WiFi, any
> ideas?
>
> Next question is a date, I would favour a Saturday, enough light to
> see by and do things (as opposed to meeting say in the evening...).
> What works for those here who would be inclined to attend a mapping
> party?
>
> Colin McGregor
>
> P.S. This past weekend I went after Queen St. E., aka: the Beach so
> spots like Lee Av. will be showing up.
>
> I will hope to get back there next weekend and make sure I have sorted
> out the Fallingbrooks ... In one small area at the east end of Queen
> St. E. you have "Fallingbrook Rd.", "Fallingbrook Cres.", and
> "Fallingbrook Woods" ... Not 100% obvious where some of the above
> start / end.
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 03:11:20 -0800
> From: "Sam Vekemans" <acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Talk-ca] GeoBase update anyone?
> To: talk-ca at openstreetmap.org, talk-ca-owner at openstreetmap.org,
> "Richard Weait" <richard at weait.com>
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> Hi all,Just wondering if anyone has contacted GeoBase to get an update if
> they are willing to let us have the data?
> Perhaps explaining that it wont cost them any $ todo this? .. all we need
> is the written word... we can post the email from them, and were golden.
>
> Anyway, I've gotten back to the idea that i want to create an Ibycus topo
> mapset for perhaps just BC, so then its a smaller download. ... and I know
> that there's issue with it, so i try to explain on the talk wiki page.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Talk:Ibycus_Topo
>
> Because of this free aspect, i want to make the SRTM topo only map of
> canada... but again, start with small... i think i know how.. just need to
> put the pieces together. (if anyone wants to help, let me know) :)
>
> And looking at the OSM cyclemap it might be possible to use screen
> shots(with a large screen PC) and save it as a JPG, and then add some text
> and graphics, and save it as a PDF... OpenOffice is smart like that :) I'll
> use Google Doc's and save each page as a open document, so then anyone can
> go in there and edit it... they can re take the screen-shot by clicking on a
> weblink on that page (so the grid stays the same) and then just adding in
> there, the zoom-in shots of the local towns/parks that need to be shown.
>
> Anyway, its all in my head in detail, just not on the written word it (so
> forgive me) :)
>
> Look forward to hearing from you, and any update.
> As well as ideas anyone might have..
>
> Cheers,
> Happy Trails
> Sam Vekemans
> Across Canada Trails
> www.acrosscanadatrails.com
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 08:45:20 -0500
> From: Richard Weait <richard at weait.com>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] GeoBase update anyone?
> To: Sam Vekemans <acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com>
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> On Fri, 2008-11-14 at 03:11 -0800, Sam Vekemans wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> Just wondering if anyone has contacted GeoBase to get an update if
>> they are willing to let us have the data?
>>
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/GeoBase#News
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 08:11:11 -0800 (PST)
> From: Chris McGee <sirnewton_01 at yahoo.ca>
> Subject: [Talk-ca] Open Routing Service for Canada
> To: talk-ca at openstreetmap.org
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> Hello All,
>
> I have noticed that the Open Routing Service does not yet support routing for Canada. Does anyone know what, if anything, needs to be done for the Canadian mapping data before this can be supported?
>
> I'm just wondering if there is anything that I can do for the part of Canada that I'm working on to help with this effort?
>
> Thanks,
> Chris McGee
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:24:09 -0500
> From: Richard Weait <richard at weait.com>
> Subject: [Talk-ca] Canadian data announcement: GeoBase Import
> To: talk-ca <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>, talk at openstreetmap.org,
> dev at openstreetmap.org
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> Dear OpenStreetMap community,
>
> Announcement
>
> Regarding the proposed inclusion of Canadian geospatial data from the
> GeoBase web site into OpenStreetMap.org
>
> The October OpenStreetMap Foundation meeting was held Tuesday 28 October
> 2008. The encouragement of GeoBase and their enthusiasm for
> OpenStreetMap led to their legal analysis of the licenses and a finding
> of compatibility. It was proposed that the GeoBase data be included in
> OSM based on the license compatibility and the aligned GeoBase and
> OpenStreetMap goals of providing free geospatial data to as wide an
> audience as possible. The proposal was passed by the board.
>
> The OpenStreetMap community, the OSM Foundation and particularly
> Canadian contributors to the OpenStreetMap community have anticipated
> this announcement for some time. I'm sure that you will all join me in
> thanking GeoBase, the Foundation and the Canadian points of contact for
> their patience, persistence and vision.
>
> Scope
>
> The importance of this announcement is hard to over-state. The
> agreement between GeoBase and OpenStreetMap marks the contribution of
> government data from the second largest country on the planet, the
> largest country in the western hemisphere and the country with the
> longest coastline on the planet. The GeoBase data set is rich and
> diverse including the National Road Network, National Hydro Network
> (surface water), Geopolitical Boundaries, Elevation data and Satellite
> imagery. The scope of this contribution is unlikely to be surpassed in
> geographic area.
>
> Next steps
>
> Those of you with an interest in participating in the GeoBase import
> discussion and project should join the other volunteers on talk-ca, the
> mailing list for OpenStreetMap discussions relating to Canada. Like
> previous data import projects for the USA and the Netherlands, this
> project is community-run. Also like previous import projects the
> documentation of the conversion and import process should be recorded in
> the OSM Wiki, on the GeoBase Import page.
>
> The Foundation expects that the OSM community will begin by examining
> the GeoBase data and importing it in test areas of OpenStreetMap, where
> little risk is posed to contributed data if the conversion and import is
> flawed. As the community gains experience with the conversion and
> import process larger areas will be imported.
>
> The Foundation expects that, as with previous import projects,
> converting and importing data in areas where it will be merged with
> existing OSM contributions will be tested first in areas where
> contributions are sparse, then in areas of more complex data. GeoBase
> has generously offered their assistance with understanding, converting
> and importing the GeoBase data.
>
> Conclusion
>
> Please join me in congratulating the OSM Foundation and GeoBase on
> reaching this agreement that is in the best interests of GeoBase,
> OpenStreetMap and Canadians. Please join me in thanking the OSM
> contributors and GeoBase staff who kept the agreement discussion going
> particularly, Claude, Yves, Corey, Michael, Tom, Sam, Andy, Steve and
> "flevin".
>
> About GeoBase.ca
>
> GeoBase is a federal, provincial and territorial government initiative
> that is overseen by the Canadian Council on Geomatics (CCOG). It is
> undertaken to ensure the provision of, and access to, a common,
> up-to-date and maintained base of quality geospatial data for all of
> Canada. Through the GeoBase portal, users with an interest in the field
> of geomatics have access to quality geospatial information at no cost
> and with unrestricted use.
>
> About OpenStreetMap.org
>
> OpenStreetMap creates and provides free geographic data such as street
> maps to anyone who wants them. The project was started because most maps
> you think of as free actually have legal or technical restrictions on
> their use, holding back people from using them in creative, productive,
> or unexpected ways.
>
> About the OpenStreetMap Foundation
>
> The OpenStreetMap Foundation is an international non-profit
> organisation supporting but not controlling the OpenStreetMap project.
> It is dedicated to encouraging the growth, development and distribution
> of free geospatial data and to providing geospatial data for anybody to
> use and share.
>
> Best regards,
> Richard Weait
> OpenStreetMap data contributor
>
> GeoBase http://geobase.ca/
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:44:23 -0500 (EST)
> From: simon at mungewell.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian data announcement: GeoBase Import
> To: "talk-ca" <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>
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> Go Canada!!!!
>
> Great news, even if I'm a little miffed by the fact I just drove the last
> few roads in Pincher Creek, AB this past weekend. Given that some of the
> roads were still under construction I doubt they will be in Geobase yet.
>
> Mungewell.
>
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:03:27 -0500
> From: Richard Weait <richard at weait.com>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian data announcement: GeoBase Import
> To: simon at mungewell.org
> Cc: talk-ca <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>
> Message-ID: <1227027807.26915.74.camel at leon>
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> On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 11:44 -0500, simon at mungewell.org wrote:
>
>> Go Canada!!!!
>>
>> Great news, even if I'm a little miffed by the fact I just drove the last
>> few roads in Pincher Creek, AB this past weekend. Given that some of the
>> roads were still under construction I doubt they will be in Geobase yet.
>>
>> Mungewell.
>>
>
> Dear Mungewell,
>
> Yay for Pincher Creek!
>
> The import is not complete (or even started yet) and even once complete,
> our fun is not yet done.
>
> Best regards,
> Richard
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 18 Nov 2008 10:31:05 -0700
> From: Jason Reid <osm at bowvalleytechnologies.com>
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Canadian data announcement: GeoBase Import
> To: Richard Weait <richard at weait.com>
> Cc: talk-ca <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>
> Message-ID: <4922FBD9.6010200 at bowvalleytechnologies.com>
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> Richard Weait wrote:
>
>> Dear OpenStreetMap community,
>>
>> Announcement
>>
>> Regarding the proposed inclusion of Canadian geospatial data from the
>> GeoBase web site into OpenStreetMap.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
> Excellent news. Thanks to all those who worked on this at the foundation
> level.
>
> I did some initial prototyping of an import script (which is in the SVN
> repository) about a year or so ago that we can probably use as a
> starting point in going forward, the largest issues that I ran into then
> were in coming up with mappings of what goes to what, which varies per
> province. So in reality it isn't so much a single large dataset but
> rather 13 distinct imports for just the roads alone as each province and
> territory has their own classification system (what may be a officially
> considered secondary highway in one province may be a primary or
> tertiary in the neighboring and may not match up with the common OSM
> guidelines for any, for instance) that has been incorporated into the
> mappings that Geobase use in the data files.
>
> -Jason Reid
>
>
>
>
>
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