[Talk-ca] Toronto Potential Datasource

Tue Nov 3 01:13:16 GMT 2009

hi All,
It looks like the City of Toronto just joined in the cool-club :-)

Thanks to user:Aude who looks to be a wikipedian... maybe could fix my
ramblings? :-)... lol ... maybe not..
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Aude

http://www.toronto.ca/open/terms.htm#licence

So according to this site, it looks like its good.
Perhaps someone wants to email a comment to ... indicating our intended use?
... then we got it 'official' :)

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I would guess that we include the tag 'attribution=
http://www.toronto.ca/open/terms.htm#licence"  or maybe
"attribution:provider=City of Toronto" & "attribution:url=
http://www.toronto.ca/open/terms.htm#licence"

So anyway, regarding how that will effect canvec, .. basically it wont.

  The canvec data will be made available as the converted shp files as .zip
files  in the http://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/osm/031/m/ directory with looking
at the files named
031m11_canvec-to-osm0_9_5_6.zip
031m12_canvec-to-osm0_9_5_6.zip
031m13_canvec-to-osm0_9_5_6.zip
031m14_canvec-to-osm0_9_5_6.zip
(the last numbers will change, as we get closer to getting the script out of
beta)  Hopefully the files will become available in the next few weeks :-)
.... so you can upload whatever you like.. and when ever you like. Updating
the canada data import chart would be helpful to the neighbors :)

With a quick look at what shp files are available, i'd recommend making a
separate rules.txt file for each so an .osm file is created so people can
work on it, at a mapping party :)

The duplicates you might find are: ... (from a 1st look)

http://www.toronto.ca/open/datasets/address-points/
:some of the geobase roads might have the address: tag in there... (the
canvec version does, if available)...
not most likey, will NOT be in canvec, ... however the building=yes (which
is available as an extra) could possibly overlap here. ... but the Toronto
version would more useful.

http://www.toronto.ca/open/datasets/places-of-worship/
Where the canvec file might have lots of nodes for it, this toroto file
might go into more detail by including Address.. denomination, ... and lots
more
I have it copied here... if you want to edit .. a simple "insert column" to
list what the associated OSM tag would be is easist IMO
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Am70fsptsPF2dHQwTF9vYlRlS0JmbTVOMXVwY2UyT3c&hl=en
.... or manually entered in the wiki, if you like :-)

(i didn't make a GoogleDocs view of the others, but can if you like)

http://www.toronto.ca/open/datasets/centreline/
:roads Where the geobaseRoads accounted for the roads (probably identical,
or a slight movement may be needed)
:Walkways, probably only a few from the 'trails' canvec file, (but probably
not,  as these would refer to  'paved' walkways.
:rivers... most of them will be able from canvec, with the river name...
however, this dataset might include more rivers.  ... so i would recommend
inserting the canvec rivers BEFORE this, but it's your call.
:railways, (most likely, it's all included in canvec)... and alot probably
done already
:Boundaries. .. these are NOT included in canvec, so it would be good to
add, if not done already.

http://www.toronto.ca/open/datasets/web-map-services/
That's cool :-)
The geobase data has WMS, but probably not as good as here.  Probably good
for the openaerialmap project.

http://www.toronto.ca/open/datasets/neighbourhoods/
Definatly not in canvec and super to have :)

http://www.toronto.ca/open/datasets/wards/
Cool to have :-) but not sure if its needed

http://www.toronto.ca/open/datasets/solid-waste-management-districts/
Also cool to have, but might make the map more complicated.  Maybe make a
.osm file available for it? ... so then people can use it as reference if
they want to make their own map.

http://www.toronto.ca/open/datasets/foodbanks/
Might be good to have too.  As it looks like each is a node and separated by
organization.

Anyway, i wont stick my fingers in that pie, until WAY WAY AFTER im done
with making the CanVec data available. (Fortunately, it looks like Richard
also wants to work on it too, so it should be done in no time at all)
.... and like the other datasets, i volunteer to get it converted.... but
someone else is CERTAINLY welcome to get it done.

Cheers,
Sam Vekemans
(unofficial OSM Canada Import Coordinator)
--- converting & keeping track, but not uploading it all... :)

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