[Talk-ca] [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import workshop in Sherbrooke?

Sun Nov 8 18:53:02 GMT 2009

Oh ya,
I'll be there via skype/video chat & IRC :)

Sam

On 11/8/09, Daniel Bégin <jfd553 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> I’m in!
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> From: Michel Gilbert [mailto:michcasa at gmail.com]
> Sent: November 7, 2009 19:49
> To: osm-sherbrooke-discussion at lists.coactivate.org; Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
> Cc: Yves Moisan; jfd553 at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [OSM Sherbrooke discussion] Re: Geobase / Canvec import
> workshop in Sherbrooke?
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>
> Hi Frank, Yves and all,
>
> I like the idea to have a mapping party in Sherbrooke that may attract
> people of other regions. The mapping party, considering we are in November,
> could concentrate on importing CanVec data for OSM. So, a Mapping Party with
> no field work, only desktop work in front of a fireplace.  We would need a
> place in Sherbrooke with good wireless connections, good coffees and a room
> where we can talk and help each other. I think that "La Brulerie" on
> Wellington meets all the requirements.
>
> In order to make the event possible we will need experts that could explain
> importing tools (python, java, fme) and editing tools (josm, potlatch).  Any
> volunteers ? Also, we need available data to import. My preference would be
> to have data that include all the CanVec feature classes. At my knowledge, I
> don't think such data can be generated rigth now. There are tools in
> development to generate such data but are not ready for importation. We
> (Daniel and I) do plan to work on a FME CanVec Import tool this winter but
> the tool won't be available in short terms.
>
> If we have Canvec OSM file ready to import, I will participate to organize
> the "Sherbrooke Couch Mapping Party". Here are some ideas for the agenda:
>    - Explain translation between CanVec features and OSM tags
>    - Training on Importing tools
>    - Explain OSM xml file
>    - Training on JOSM
>    - Importing session. Each participant take a region and import data.
>
> Let me know if anyone would like to participate at such event. We will keep
> on discussing to put in place the missing pieces.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michel
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> 2009/11/6 Frank Steggink <steggink at steggink.org>
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> Yves Moisan wrote:
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> Hi Frank,
>
> Sorry for top posting, but I just want the ball rolling on the OSM
> Sherbrooke list.  Michel was thinking of a Sherbrooke OSM meeting end
> November.  I think the training you are proposing could be part of that
> meeting, although it is probably a bit technical for the average mapper.
> Michel, what do you think ?
>
> Yves
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>
> Hi guys,
>
> I just had an idea, but because I don't know if it is a good one, I'll
> share it with you. Would it be a good idea to organize a workshop to  import
> Geobase and Canvec data?
>
> Today I was contacted by Oxalin, who has been editing in Granby  lately, and
> he mentioned that he and a friend are willing to help with  the import as
> well (at least for St-Jean-sur-Richelieu). Perhaps there  are also some
> people from Montreal interested. There is a large  concentration of users in
> Sherbrooke, and because it is somewhat in  between Montreal and Quebec, I
> think it would be the most obvious  location.
>
> Regarding the workshop: I could explain how to import the roads, and  edit /
> make connections with JOSM. We could also discuss the import of  Canvec and
> NHN (hydro) data, because both Daniel and I are interested  in it. Maybe
> Michel can explain how he imported the data through FME,  although I'm not
> sure if this is relevant, because not everyone has  access to it.
>
> About NHN import: I think that users from the Montreal area should  also
> pick up the gauntlet. There is a whole lot of data to be  imported. I also
> have no idea about the current data quality, but I  expect this to be a huge
> undertaking. (And what I've done so far pales  in comparison with that.)
> Anyways, they'll also benefit from OSM :)
>
> If you think this would be a good idea, what would be the term to  organize
> such an event? A couple of hours, together with a small  mapping party
> (proposal: gathering and entering addresses) should be  enough. And of
> course a dinner at the end of the day :) For me it  won't be a problem to
> come from Quebec, but I would prefer doing this  before the winter really
> sets in. The winter is too cold and snowy to  venture outdoors anyways, so
> what would be better than to spend our  time importing data in our beloved
> Open Street Map?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Frank
>
> Hi Yves,
>
> What kind of meeting are you considering? Is it a mapping party, or just an
> event planned in an evening. In the latter case it won't be possible for me
> to attend, because of the distance. When the idea is to hold a mapping party
> (on a day in the weekend), I think it can be combined very well. For
> example, we could start an hour earlier in the morning, and I can explain a
> number of things about the import. The mapping party itself could start
> afterwards, so then people who do not care about the import, don't have to
> hear all of this stuff. I only mentioned "a couple of hours" because I was
> not aware you were thinking about organizing something yourself, and someone
> from farther away would not come if there was not a mapping party or
> something else going on.
>
> Right now the import of Geobase and Canvec data in Quebec is gaining
> momentum, so this is an excellent occasion to get more people jumping in :)
> Daniel already mentioned that he and Michel were interested in adding Canvec
> data around Sherbrooke (although I hope they're willing to extend their
> efforts to the rest of Quebec too). Also Alex (user:Oxalin) and his friend
> are willing to lend a hand. So, that would already be 5 persons, if all of
> them can attend, and 6 including you. And, as mentioned I also hope to get
> some people from the Montreal area interested.
>
> Importing all of the data is a lot of work. I think that road-wise we're
> about halfway in Quebec. Not too bad, but it could be better, considering
> that other provinces are "finished". Importing is more than just uploading
> the data to the OSM server, so I want to pay some attention to cleanup an
> other quality aspects as well. This certainly improves the data quality,
> which opens the way for things like routing. Although information about the
> import is available in several places (wiki, talk-ca), it is hard for
> someone just starting to get going. Unfortunately the guy who took on
> himself to coordinate the import has a communication style which is hard to
> follow. Also the wiki pages are outdated, or not entirely correct (as is the
> current shp-to-osm page). Certainly, someone could improve it, but I think
> it would be more effective to show in person how things are working, what to
> look for, etc. Hence this idea.
>
>
>
> Frank
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