[Talk-ca] Logged Canadian Road Trip

[Sam Vekemans]

Hi tim, i responded in-text.

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On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Tim Francois <sk1ppy14 at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> A few of the highways I listed we doubled up (the Dempster for one - no
> other choice really!), so there will be two traces for these.
>
> I do have a txt file which logs dates/times and a description at that
> position, be it a POI, fuel, turnout etc. It's not complete by any means (it
> was a holiday after all!!), but it's a start and will keep me busy for a
> bit!!
>
> Another observation I made: the further North I travelled, the more the
> towns/cities seemed to be shifted one way or the other on Navit. I'm not
> sure how to call this one. It could be Navit not processing data properly
> towards the poles, but on the other hand the highways were largely on point
> - it's just when you entered the towns/cities that things started to go a
> bit skewy. A notable example is Whitehorse, YT - I was driving through the
> middle of buildings there - we visited twice in two weeks, driving on three
> separate occasions and at different times of the day, but the entire town
> seems to have dropped South-East for some reason!! Other places I noticed
> this in where Tok, AK (should probably be on the Yank mailing list for that)
> and Dawson City, YT. I won't mess around with these places because as soon
> as you change one street, the entire town will have to be updated or the
> whole place will ltook a mess - just though I'd bring it up!!
>

1st upload your raw GPS tracks, how you name it is upto you.
When tracing over (if using the online editor potlatch), you might want to
show all the other GPS traces around.  and use a best guess.   Assume that
your Navit was wrong (if you wernt using OSM) :-)  and go by what is already
in OSM as to be 'more true'.

There will be more editing done later on, as the Canada Import progresses.
If its me that is importing, i'll be sure to try to contact as many users as
i can before dropping in things.  So no need to be too concerned :)

If some of your turn-offs were for views or if they were actual turn-off
areas, these are also good to note on the map too.   Im sure alot of rest
stop areas arnt mapped, they are good to map too.

Keep your notes if you can :)  I put a * on your message, so when i get to
that area i'll can remember to ask you about it, if you remember :)

Hopefully it will be sooner than later :)

Oh ya, you might want to write in the diary a note about your big long
tracks, as people like to hear.   ... it's an adventure that not to many
take :)

Thanks,
Sam

>
> Cheers
> Tim
>
>
> On 31/08/09 05:39, Sam Vekemans wrote:
>
>> Hi Tim,
>> a good benchmark is to see that if there are 2 or more GPX tracks on
>> the road, and its more than 10meters off, then its a good reason to
>> move it.
>>
>> If you stopped a few times, it would be good to list what it was (gas
>> stations, rest stops, food places,  points of interest)
>>
>> the roads being imported are a mix of sources, with varring accuracy,
>> and varring dates when data was origionally acquired.
>>
>> Hope that helps,
>> cheers,
>> Sam Vekemans
>> Across Canada Trails
>>
>>
>> On 8/28/09, Tim Francois<sk1ppy14 at yahoo.co.uk>  wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I live in the UK, but parents live in Calgary. This summer we went on a
>>> somewhat extended roadtrip, taking in Alberta, BC, Yukon and Alaska. I
>>> had my netbook and GPS mouse with me and logged pretty much the entire
>>> trip, checking the OSM map accuracy using Navit (on Linux). Some major
>>> roads we traveled include:
>>>
>>> - Trans-Canada from Calgary to Vancouver
>>> - Highway 4(a) on Vancouver Island from Parksville (Nanaimo) to
>>> Tofino/Ucluelet
>>> - Highway 19 Parksville to Port Hardy (including little bit around
>>> Telegraph Cove)
>>> - Highway 16 from Prince Rupert to Highway 37 (Cassiar Highway)
>>> intersection
>>> - Cassiar Highway (37) from Highway 16 up to Alaska Highway intersection
>>> (including road to Stewart, BC and Hyder, AK)
>>> - Almost entire Alaska Highway from Tok, AK to mile 0 in Dawson Creek
>>> - All Highways on the Klondike loop, including:
>>> -- Highway 2 (Klondike Highway) from Dawson City to Alaska Highway
>>> -- Highway 11 (Silver Trail) from Stewart Crossing to Keno
>>> -- Highway 9 (Top of the World Highway) from Dawson City to USA border
>>> -- Relevant highways in Alaska, though that's not for this mailing list
>>> - Dempster Highway from mile 0 into NWT
>>> - Highway sections from Dawson Creek to Calgary (via Highway 22)
>>>
>>> So I have GPX files for almost the entire trip, with a point logged
>>> every second. My questions:
>>> 1) All of the highways are on OSM in one form or another, but I'm
>>> assuming most were not added via GPX points. When following on Navit the
>>> mapped road sometimes varied substantially from the actual road. Is this
>>> a correct assumption?
>>> 2) If 1) is correct, is it then OK to improve all these highways with
>>> the GPX tracks?
>>> 3) Is someone else already doing this, or is there a larger project
>>> ongoing under which this should be maintained?
>>>
>>> Any info/input is gratefully received - I don't want to start updating
>>> things and then realise I'm treading on someone else's toes!!
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Tim
>>>
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>>
>>
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