[Talk-ca] More Google Copying

Dan Putler dan.putler at sauder.ubc.ca
Mon Feb 22 00:42:25 GMT 2010


Could the data be from the StatsCan RNF? That would explain the geometry
being off, while having street names on the ways.

On Sun, 2010-02-21 at 16:34 -0800, Adam Dunn wrote:
> The NRN site confirms that names are not available in Manitoba (NRN
> for that province is on version 3) [1]. Sam, maybe you should send a
> nice email explaining that a blank map is better than an illegal one.
> This person has made edits to my hometown that I basically had to
> revert because the geometry was way off. Don't know what his source
> is...
> 
> [1] http://www.geobase.ca/geobase/en/data/nrn/status.html
> 
> Adam
> 
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 4:03 PM, Sam Dyck <samueldyck at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>         About an hour ago he/she was editing in Saskatoon, and has
>         done a lot of work in Rural Manitoba to.
>         
>         
>         
>         On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Sam Vekemans
>         <acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com> wrote:
>                 Not sure if this link works 
>                 http://www.itoworld.com/product/osm/map?area=1372:7&show=users&sort=total-&colour=date:30
>                 But you can see whats going on in the area..
>                 (or just log in and zoom to the area to find the
>                 mappers)
>                 
>                 http://picasaweb.google.ca/lh/photo/Orkp7E40gO0fwyJ8AKlIZQ?feat=directlink
>                 
>                 Ya, it seems like alot of work has been done
>                 reciently.
>                 
>                 Cheers,
>                 Sam
>                 
>                 
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>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 
>                 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:36 PM, Sam Dyck
>                 <samueldyck at gmail.com> wrote:
>                         I did, Geobase doesn't even have the street
>                         and lacks street names in Manitoba. (at least
>                         this is the case in the viewer. The Geobase
>                         data in Winnipeg appears to be out of date by
>                         at least 14 years in some cases. 
>                         But yes, a mapping party would be a good idea,
>                         any other Winnipegers on this list?
>                         
>                         
>                         
>                         
>                         On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 5:18 PM, Sam Vekemans
>                         <acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com> wrote:
>                                 Thanks for sharing.
>                                 The user seems to be doing alot of
>                                 great work.
>                                 Did you cross-check with the GeoBase
>                                 data?
>                                 Im not sure what the spelling of it is
>                                 in there.
>                                 
>                                 If anyone is in Winnipeg, perhaps a
>                                 couch mapping party is needed?
>                                 
>                                 Cheers,
>                                 Sam
>                                 
>                                 
>                                 On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Sam
>                                 Dyck <samueldyck at gmail.com> wrote:
>                                 
>                                         
>                                         So I just got a job that
>                                         involves entering addresses
>                                         into Google Maps (don't ask),
>                                         one of these streets, Drobot
>                                         Place (all address in
>                                         winnipeg), Google has either
>                                         deliberately or accidentally
>                                         named Drobol Place (here,
>                                         compare Yahoo, Bing, City of
>                                         Winnipeg Assesment, Google
>                                         Street View (Needs Flash)).
>                                         OSM makes the same mistake as
>                                         Google, which leads me to
>                                         beileve that the street and
>                                         others were copied from
>                                         Google. I really hate telling
>                                         people that I caught them
>                                         "cheating." (I'm sure it was
>                                         an honest mistake) Could
>                                         someone please contact the
>                                         editor responsible (you can
>                                         look him/her up, I don't want
>                                         to name names. I would be
>                                         willing to help with any
>                                         followup and cleanup, and you
>                                         can give them my username
>                                         (sammuell) if you wish, I just
>                                         can't bring myself to send a
>                                         message explaining just how I
>                                         caught them.
>                                         
>                                         Thanks
>                                         
>                                         Sam
>                                         
>                                         
>                                         
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