[Talk-ca] Canvec.osm Product almost...

Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com
Fri Jun 18 20:35:15 BST 2010


Cool idea :)
(i don't actually use validator) as i know its not all correct
'validations', but i should probably take iniciative and work to fix
it :)

Anyway, please do describe the 'errors', so we can go through the list
and see what Daniel & the CanVec product team can possably fix.

I don't see it as a 'pain' to fix, since we need local area mappers to
help validate the data. But yes, if their is stuff like
'unclaSsified', it all helps remove the need to create a 'CanVec
cleanup Bot' sometime down the road.

Cheers,
Sam


On 6/18/10, Michael Barabanov <michael.barabanov at gmail.com> wrote:
> I did a simple test of opening a file from 092G02 zip and hit Upload
> in JOSM (didn't actually upload, of course).  There's a bunch of
> errors from the validator plugin. I think it'd be good to fix those in
> the converter, otherwise it'll be a pain to resolve manually.
>
> On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 2:02 AM, Adam Dunn <dunnadam at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Opened up 092G06.
>>
>> highway=unclassified is misspelled. The 092G06 data has
>> highway=unclasified
>> (with one 's').
>>
>> footway bridges appear to be duplicated on top of the non-bridge footway
>> that they are a part of. In other words, a [highway=footway] will continue
>> the entire length of the path (including the bridge), and there is a
>> second
>> way [highway=footway;bridge=yes] where only the bridge is.
>>
>> cardinal direction modifiers have 3 spaces after them (eg. "West   8th
>> Avenue"). I'm not sure what the standard is for OSM, since the wiki
>> doesn't
>> seem to talk about it.
>>
>> railway/road intersections don't have a common node. There is also a very
>> long rail tunnel that runs from beside the Ironworkers Memorial Bridge
>> down
>> to near the intersection of Trans-Canada Highway and Willingdon Avenue,
>> but
>> this tunnel appears to be missing from Canvec.
>>
>> (as a side note: Canvec has the bridge for Trans-Canada going over Burrard
>> Inlet called "Hwy 1;Second Narrows Bridge;Trans-Canada Highway;TransCanada
>> Highway" {note the Second Narrows Bridge part}. It should actually be
>> called
>> "Ironworkers Memorial Second Narrows Crossing" and the rail bridge beside
>> it
>> is "Second Narrows Bridge". See
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ironworkers_Memorial_Second_Narrows_Crossing)
>>
>> Other data that I see in error is the standard "old source" problems
>> (buildings that have since been constructed/demolished, especially in the
>> rapid construction that happens at Univ. BC), streams/rivers not having
>> names (but that was expected).
>>
>> It's nice to see that highway=*_link is being used. It was a pain trying
>> to
>> figure those out with NRN.
>>
>> Adam
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 11:57 AM, Richard Weait <richard at weait.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Bégin, Daniel
>>> <Daniel.Begin at rncan-nrcan.gc.ca> wrote:
>>> > Bonjour!
>>> >
>>> > Before the Canvec.osm production starts, I have produced complete NTS
>>> > datasets for samples previously offered - actually I have expanded the
>>> > samples to cover the entire NTS tile and add 092G06.
>>> >
>>> > Each NTS dataset have been tiled using a quadtree algorithm - a nice
>>> > example
>>> > of the result is 092G06 !  The .osm subtiles are zipped all together.
>>> > We
>>> > are still using WinZip but we might eventually move to gzip or bzip.
>>> >
>>> > Have a look!
>>> > And, by the way, can you make sure everything is still OK with the
>>> > data?
>>>
>>> Wonderful news, Daniel!  And congratulations.
>>>
>>> I'll take a look but am slightly {natural=wetland; wetland=swamp}ed,
>>> right now.  Is it helpful if I have a look next week?
>>>
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