[Talk-ca] GeoBase Aboriginal Lands import status

Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatrails at gmail.com
Wed May 19 10:46:25 BST 2010


Hi all,

I have 3 areas to look at
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/59586888

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/59584575

http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/59584574

Yan Morin went ahead and the the conversion of the whole set, based on the
rules that are listed here
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase/Canadian_Aboriginal_Lands

And so, based on the discussions & thinking about it a bit, the solution i
came up with seems to solve everyones concernes (almost everyone's) .. since
we cant please everyone :)
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Daboriginal_lands#Discussions

It's pritty easy to re-convert the dataset for different tags.  So im
looking to see if there are better options.   ("i dont like it" isn't an
answer) :)

Here's an example, of how i want to tag all of them.
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.1307&lon=-125.89699&zoom=17&layers=0B00FTF
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/59588054

**** from wiki

With some time to think about it, this tag proposal page should be changed
to boundary:type<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:boundary:type&action=edit&redlink=1>
=aboriginal_lands<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:boundary:type%3Daboriginal_lands&action=edit&redlink=1>.
Here's why:
example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/58942854
admin_level<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:admin_level>
=4 <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:admin_level%3D4> -- because it
has its own jurisdiction which is similar to a 'state/province' level, where
it is still within a country (generally) more times than not. There are
special cases (just like countries that are in transition & dispute). In
some countries there are signed agreements with members of each group.
place <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:place>=state<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dstate>--
this should also be used, as it clearly defines the fact that it is
like
a State/Province jurisdiction and more clearly defines the admin_level,
where admin_level=4 could be used for
boundary<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:boundary>
=national_park<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dnational_park>
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/40060616
boundary<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:boundary>
=administrative<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative>--
because this is an 'administrative' boundary. Where it's known, and
sometimes signed, as it would be trespassing if there is no implied visiting
(there is no security check to go/through the area)
boundary:type<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:boundary:type&action=edit&redlink=1>
=aboriginal_lands<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:boundary:type%3Daboriginal_lands&action=edit&redlink=1>--
although this is not documented (yet), it is a way to clearly list
what
type of boundary this is
landuse<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse>
=reserve<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:landuse%3Dreserve&action=edit&redlink=1>--
in OSM, both the landuse and drawing the actual property line is used
interchangeably. In this case. the default landuse would be the fact that
the whole are is a reserve. When more details are known, these can also be
mapped; Listing the physical environment, such as 'natural=wood'
natural=grass natural=water.

--acrosscanadatrails<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Acrosscanadatrails>16:02,
12 May 2010 (UTC)


***
So if there are no objections, i'll move the page over to
"boundary:type=aboriginal_lands"  and put it in the draft status with
details.

Cheers,
Sam

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