[Talk-ca] OpenStreetMap birthday party (Immanuel Giulea)

[Renee Sieber]

Hi Richard,

One of things we discovered, at the first annual general meeting of 
Geothink, was that the federal government was proposing a model for Open 
Data licenses. That may complicate municipal contributions of data 
because the federal government is very cautious about anything that 
looks like it gives away IP. Two researchers in our grant are law 
professors and they'll be concentrating on IP and licensing issues. You 
could have some quite interesting conversations with them.

Let's hope we don't bury municipalities in FOI type paperwork. Indeed, 
in our summer 2012 research we found that municipalities used reduction 
of the costs of FOI requests as a justification for opening up data. We 
need to promote greater openness as a solution to paperwork.

By the way, OSM is a grant partner. That is, Martijn van Exel is a 
partner and, like you, brings what he can from OSM.

Renée

On 13-06-10 3:13 PM, Richard Weait wrote:
> 2013/6/10 Diane Mercier <diane.mercier at gmail.com
> <mailto:diane.mercier at gmail.com>>
>
>     Bonjour Bruno,
>
>     Je tiens à préciser humblement que je ne suis qu'une
>     curatrice-facilitatrice et sympathisante du projet GéoThink qui est
>     sous la direction de la dre Renée Sieber de l'Université Mcgill et
>     avec la collaboration de Stéphane Roche, de l'Université Laval.
>
>     En ce qui concerne OSM et Google, pour moi, le choix est clair...
>     c'est OSM. Pour l'instant, OSM (ODbl et CC-BY-SA) semble préférer
>     que les données des organismes publics soient publiées sous PDDL et
>     celles des citoyens sous ODbl. Un examen rapide de CLIPol démontre
>     que nous sommes très éloignés d'un rendez-vous. Il est donc
>     nécessaire de faire évoluer les licences et les perceptions.
>
>
> Don't mistake what I say for any official position of the entire
> OpenStreetMap community.  I speak for myself.  :-)
>
> When I demand that a government publish my data (data which I permit
> them to compile and or curate) under PDDL it is for the benefit of _any_
> potential data consumer.  OpenStreetMap is big enough to approach most
> data publishers and ask for permission to use badly-licensed data.  That
> is not the case for other potential consumers.
>
> Perhaps the next step is to abandon attempts to educate these wayward
> municipalities and to bury them in paperwork instead?  Next time you
> want to use OpenData published under one of the horrible vanity
> licenses, send a FOI demand.

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