[Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ...

Adam Martin s.adam.martin at gmail.com
Thu Jan 16 23:52:51 UTC 2014


Thanks Harald. Especially for the corrections in Newfoundland - we don't
have many of them but they're there.
On Jan 16, 2014 7:00 PM, "Harald Kliems" <kliems at gmail.com> wrote:

> I am happy to report that all of Canada should now be free of this issue!
> I just fixed the last one all the way west in Saint John's. Yay!
>
>  Harald.
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 12, 2014 at 6:03 PM, Harald Kliems <kliems at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Some updates on this issue:
>>
>> I contacted Martijn a while ago with the suggestion of running this as a
>> Maproulette. He liked the idea but I haven't heard back in a while. He also
>> asked me how many cases we're talking about and based on the Overpass query
>> mentioned upthread I came to the conclusion that the number is actually not
>> that high (maybe 400 cases in all of Canada at the most). Therefore I've
>> started fixing the issue manually and already cleaned up all of Quebec. It
>> took me several hours, but that's partly because you always discover other
>> issues to take care of as you go along (e.g. missing motorway_junction,
>> name vs. exit_to on those junctions etc.).
>>
>> I'll continue working on this in Ontario now and I encourage others to go
>> ahead in the other provinces, too. Just run
>> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1CI on the appropriate bounding box and then
>> go through each of the spots that come up. If there is hi-res Bing imagery
>> available the fix will be obvious; and if not common sense should still
>> tell you if a segment is oneway=yes or oneway=no. I have added a oneway tag
>> to every motorway_link segment, both to avoid any misunderstanding with the
>> default and to allow me to track the progress on the Overpass map.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>  Harald.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Harald Kliems <kliems at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> So before contacting Martijn I want to be sure that we can properly
>>> identify the potentially problematic ways. What we are looking for are ways
>>> that match the following query:
>>>
>>> (highway="motorway_link") AND (NOT oneway=*) AND (lanes!="1")
>>>
>>> Or in natural language: ways that are motorway links but don't have the
>>> oneway tag nor are tagged as having one lane. If you want to test this
>>> query, go to this link http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/1CI and adjust the
>>> bounding box coordinates for the desired area.
>>>
>>> Comments?
>>>
>>>  Harald.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:25 AM, Daniel Begin <jfd553 at hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> The example I provided yesterday was not fixed.  Most the exits having
>>>> a similar look along the trans-Canada Highway in Quebec are the same. I
>>>> have also found examples in Alberta and In BC.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Harald Kliems [mailto:kliems at gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* November-26-13 10:04
>>>> *To:* Daniel Begin
>>>> *Cc:* Connors, Bernie (SNB); Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
>>>>
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can write an email to Martijn with a proposal. Does anyone have a
>>>> link to an exit that has not been fixed yet to use as an example?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Harald.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Daniel Begin <jfd553 at hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> It seems to me it is the only safe solution. I go for maproulette.org
>>>>
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Connors, Bernie (SNB) [mailto:Bernie.Connors at snb.ca]
>>>> *Sent:* November-26-13 08:19
>>>> *To:* 'Harald Kliems'; Daniel Begin
>>>> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
>>>> *Subject:* RE: [Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1 for the Maproulette.org solution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Bernie.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Bernie Connors, P.Eng
>>>>
>>>> Tel: 506-444-2077
>>>>
>>>> bernie.connors at snb.ca
>>>>
>>>> *SNB – We make it happen…*
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Harald Kliems [mailto:kliems at gmail.com <kliems at gmail.com>]
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, 2013-11-25 5:05 PM
>>>> *To:* Daniel Begin
>>>> *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] GPS and Motorway links ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 3:35 PM, Daniel Begin <jfd553 at hotmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hooo, I see, and I also see there was not a large consensus on that
>>>> point (Discussion) since all other ways are having a different behavior…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> About all motorway_link in Canada are having the same problem!
>>>>
>>>> I don't know, I rarely encounter this issue in practice. Adding
>>>> oneway=no to all motorway_link seems rather dangerous and
>>>> counterproductive. The best solution would probably be to create a query
>>>> that will find all imported motorway_link that have not been touched since
>>>> the import and then check them. Depending on how big the task is we could
>>>> ask Martijn to set it up as a Maproulette (http://maproulette.org/).
>>>> Or we set up a wiki page to coordinate people going through all the
>>>> motorways/exits and make sure everything is okay by hand. There are only 33
>>>> Autoroutes in Quebec after all :-)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Harald.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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