[Talk-ca] Fwd: Ottawa, Canada import

[James]

I got an email back from the guy handling the Licensing.

Hi James, thank-you for the email.  I’m not sure I understand the
compatibility grid.   Is there a particular issue you are concerned about?



Note: we have plans to adapt the Open Government License Canada but have
not been able to do that quite yet; however, there are few differences
between the two, so if there’s a specific item you are concerned about it I
might be able to shed some light on how we treat it.




Thank-you,


Robert Giggey
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What would be the specifics of our license (ODbL) incompatible with
Ottawa-TOU?

On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 10:14 AM, James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Email I got after I said I will be unable to use the data due to
> incompatible licensing:
>
>
> James,
>
> I’m going to forward this inquiry on to Robert Giggey. He is in charge of
> the Open Data program at the City. I must say, I am a little surprised that
> this interpretation is so restrictive. I personally was not aware of this.
> I will also follow-up with Robert in this regard.
>
>
> *-Stephen*
>
> Maybe, they just needed some education? P.s. thank you Stewart for the
> comparison tool!
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Stewart C. Russell <scruss at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi James —
>>
>> > What should I tell Stephen, to change the license for just OSM or in
>> whole?
>>
>> For simplicity, they'd need to change the licence for everyone. A
>> special carve-out for OSM alone would be fraught with problems.
>>
>> Ideally, they'd chose a licence that isunencumbered, like CC0 or PDDL.
>> Any attempt to roll your own licence adds compatibility problems, and
>> municipalities do love to keep those little clauses in that allow them
>> to recall data.
>>
>> If you want to show Stephen how compatible and open the city's licence
>> isn't, show him this:
>>
>>  http://clipol.org/licences/16?tab=licence_compatibility
>>
>> It shows how Canadian municipalities all shared and tweaked licences,
>> and inadvertently made them incompatible with everything. And they
>> complain about why no-one uses their data.
>>
>> If they do want to change (great!), I know there are some folks on this
>> list just itching for a roadtrip to the NCR to do some municipal
>> education …
>>
>> cheers,
>>  Stewart
>>
>>
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