[Talk-ca] New project update

Fri Apr 22 14:38:57 UTC 2016

Adam, thank you! You are right, I should have provided more details.

To start with, the data gap in non-residential buildings is that there is no comprehensive list even for basic things like counts.
The first goal would be to address that along with basic information about these buildings.

The buildings to identify are all the commercial, industrial, government and institutional ones in Canada.
 As much as possible the basic information would be:

1. precise location (coordinates, polygon)
2. footprint, size
3. year of construction
4. activities (use)
5. number of floors above ground
6. address (number, street, postal code)

The main objective is to eventually have a national inventory of all these buildings.

Bjenk

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 14:19:06 -0230
From: Adam Martin <s.adam.martin at gmail.com>
To: "talk-ca at openstreetmap.org" <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New project update
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Hi Bjenk,

I think what Paul meant was more along the lines of what specifically you
wanted to do. You state that you want to define a project, but other than
stating that you want to collect certain information about non-residential
buildings, we have little else to go on.

>From the sound of it, you want to use OSM to collect and map specific
information about these non-residential buildings. Are we talking about the
number of windows in the building or employees? The number of floors or the
specific businesses / activities carried out in them?

Just give us something more to go on and we can discuss it from there :)

Adam

On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 2:11 PM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <
bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca> wrote:

> Paul,
>
> All this is open for discussion at this point. We are looking at all the
> options.
> By defining a project its more like stating what information we wish to
> focus on.
> We hope to work with the OSM community and we are looking at different
> ways of doing that.
> We also have different data sources that we will be evaluating to
> potentially link to these buildings.
>
> Thanks for your feedback!
>
> Bjenk
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Ramsey [mailto:pramsey at cleverelephant.ca]
> Sent: April-21-16 12:26 PM
> To: Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca>
> Cc: talk-ca at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New project update
>
> Hey Bjenk,
> When you say "define a project" are you talking about
>
> (a) describing a scope of work that StatsCan intends to resource and
> complete?
> (b) describing a scope of work that StatsCan hopes the OSM community
> will complete on your behalf?
>
> You've used the passive voice in describing the actual collection in
> your description below, so it's not completely clear who you think
> will be collecting the information.
>
> ATB,
>
> P
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)
> <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca> wrote:
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> > Basically, what we would like to do is define a project for OSM to
> collect
> > information about non-residential buildings.
> > We would like to popose a list of what would be collected. We were
> thinking
> > of identifying specific areas to start with.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD
> >
> > Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur
> les
> > entreprises
> > Statistics Canada | Statistiques Canada
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 10:55:27 -0600
From: Martijn van Exel <m at rtijn.org>
To: "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca>
Cc: "talk-ca at openstreetmap.org" <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New project update
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Bjenk — 
Perhaps a micro-tasking tool such as MapRoulette (which I created) would be useful to help guide your thinking. I am actively looking for MapRoulette pilot projects involving government collaboration. MapRoulette has proven to be a very effective tool for solving specific problems or adding specific data types to OSM. Let me know if you would like to know more.
Martijn

> On Apr 21, 2016, at 10:41 AM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca> wrote:
> 
> Paul, 
> 
> All this is open for discussion at this point. We are looking at all the options.
> By defining a project its more like stating what information we wish to focus on.
> We hope to work with the OSM community and we are looking at different ways of doing that.
> We also have different data sources that we will be evaluating to potentially link to these buildings.
> 
> Thanks for your feedback!
> 
> Bjenk
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Ramsey [mailto:pramsey at cleverelephant.ca] 
> Sent: April-21-16 12:26 PM
> To: Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca>
> Cc: talk-ca at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New project update
> 
> Hey Bjenk,
> When you say "define a project" are you talking about
> 
> (a) describing a scope of work that StatsCan intends to resource and complete?
> (b) describing a scope of work that StatsCan hopes the OSM community
> will complete on your behalf?
> 
> You've used the passive voice in describing the actual collection in
> your description below, so it's not completely clear who you think
> will be collecting the information.
> 
> ATB,
> 
> P
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)
> <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca> wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Basically, what we would like to do is define a project for OSM to collect
>> information about non-residential buildings.
>> We would like to popose a list of what would be collected. We were thinking
>> of identifying specific areas to start with.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD
>> 
>> Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les
>> entreprises
>> Statistics Canada | Statistiques Canada
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Talk-ca mailing list
>> Talk-ca at openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
>> 
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 10:51:42 -0600
From: Martijn van Exel <mvexel at gmail.com>
To: "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca>
Cc: "talk-ca at openstreetmap.org" <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New project update
Message-ID: <2D87219E-2464-4C73-8843-5866B339B341 at gmail.com>
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Bjenk — 
Perhaps a micro-tasking tool such as MapRoulette (which I created) would be useful to help guide your thinking. I am actively looking for MapRoulette pilot projects involving government collaboration. MapRoulette has proven to be a very effective tool for solving specific problems or adding specific data types to OSM. Let me know if you would like to know more.
Martijn

> On Apr 21, 2016, at 10:41 AM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca> wrote:
> 
> Paul, 
> 
> All this is open for discussion at this point. We are looking at all the options.
> By defining a project its more like stating what information we wish to focus on.
> We hope to work with the OSM community and we are looking at different ways of doing that.
> We also have different data sources that we will be evaluating to potentially link to these buildings.
> 
> Thanks for your feedback!
> 
> Bjenk
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Ramsey [mailto:pramsey at cleverelephant.ca] 
> Sent: April-21-16 12:26 PM
> To: Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca>
> Cc: talk-ca at openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] New project update
> 
> Hey Bjenk,
> When you say "define a project" are you talking about
> 
> (a) describing a scope of work that StatsCan intends to resource and complete?
> (b) describing a scope of work that StatsCan hopes the OSM community
> will complete on your behalf?
> 
> You've used the passive voice in describing the actual collection in
> your description below, so it's not completely clear who you think
> will be collecting the information.
> 
> ATB,
> 
> P
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 21, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)
> <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca> wrote:
>> Hello everyone,
>> 
>> Basically, what we would like to do is define a project for OSM to collect
>> information about non-residential buildings.
>> We would like to popose a list of what would be collected. We were thinking
>> of identifying specific areas to start with.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD
>> 
>> Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les
>> entreprises
>> Statistics Canada | Statistiques Canada
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> Talk-ca mailing list
>> Talk-ca at openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
>> 
> _______________________________________________
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