[Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca
Wed Aug 3 16:42:54 UTC 2016


Great! Should we start a separate wiki page or put it under OSM Canada?

From: James [mailto:james2432 at gmail.com]
Sent: August-03-16 12:28 PM
To: Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN) <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca>
Cc: Talk-CA OpenStreetMap <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada


We can. People at State of the map US in seattle really seemed to enjoy how well documented it was. Which makes maintenance a bit easier if stuff is documented

On Aug 3, 2016 12:23 PM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca>> wrote:

The city of los angeles went through the same process(importing buildings) and this might be useful for the project:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Los_angeles,_California/Buildings_Import

On Aug 3, 2016 11:04 AM, "john whelan" <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com<mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>> wrote:

Technically we can add to what is there but that adds volume to the database.

We also need to settle on the tags to be used.  I noted the use of building=retail I assume that is acceptable as well as commercial.

Another tag used is ele which has the same values as building:levels but I hadn't seen it before.

Cheerio John

On 3 Aug 2016 10:40 am, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca>> wrote:
We could use only a selection of tags. In the form in the interface we will use, it could be just residential and apartments not be in the choices.

We will use the tags reserved for buildings. As John mentioned, malls can have just a few tags and then there are these shops and amenities floating at the same address. Could we have the building and the tags shops, offices, amenities attached to them?

Bjenk

From: James [mailto:james2432 at gmail.com<mailto:james2432 at gmail.com>]
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Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Crowdsourcing buildings with Statistics Canada

building=apartments should also be considered residential if not they are tagged as offices. There is going to have to be grouping of some tags for residential, commercial and industrial buildings to get a full tally

Yeah, terrace homes, duplexes, triplexes, condos may all have unique civic addresses. Apartments may have the the same civic address but also includes an apartment no which needs to be mapped differently then just assigning a address to a building(you are now getting into entraces and addr:flats) example of a terrace home: http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2688375179 and http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/262705861  this is the way they are doing it in the UK (after many hours in IRC asking how to properly map them)

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:03 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com<mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>> wrote:

How many buildings are tagged with a building tag or is that step one tag building with the building tag and type?

How do we handle a shopping mall with a building outline and a nodes for the stores?

Thanks John

On 2 Aug 2016 2:53 pm, "James" <james2432 at gmail.com<mailto:james2432 at gmail.com>> wrote:

There is a way to tag a building type
Here is a list of the building types:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building#Values

On Aug 2, 2016 2:48 PM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca>> wrote:
Hello everyone,

Here is what we would invite Canadians to tell us about buildings for OSM:

name
Address:
•         Number
•         street
•         city
•         postal code
levels
office, shop
type of access (handicap, etc.)

If there is a way to categorize them as residential, non-residential that would be perfect.

What do you think? Anything else we should add?


Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD

Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et l’intégration de données (LEID)
Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les entreprises
Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
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On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 3:03 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com<mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>> wrote:

How many buildings are tagged with a building tag or is that step one tag building with the building tag and type?

How do we handle a shopping mall with a building outline and a nodes for the stores?

Thanks John

On 2 Aug 2016 2:53 pm, "James" <james2432 at gmail.com<mailto:james2432 at gmail.com>> wrote:

There is a way to tag a building type
Here is a list of the building types:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building#Values

On Aug 2, 2016 2:48 PM, "Ellefsen, Bjenk (STATCAN)" <bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca<mailto:bjenk.ellefsen at canada.ca>> wrote:
Hello everyone,

Here is what we would invite Canadians to tell us about buildings for OSM:

name
Address:
•         Number
•         street
•         city
•         postal code
levels
office, shop
type of access (handicap, etc.)

If there is a way to categorize them as residential, non-residential that would be perfect.

What do you think? Anything else we should add?


Bjenk Ellefsen, PhD

Data Exploration and Integration Lab (DEIL) | Lab pour l’exploration et l’intégration de données (LEID)
Center for Special Business Projects | Centre des Projets Spéciaux sur les entreprises
Statistics Canada | Statistique Canada
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