[Talk-ca] Red Cross and Fort McMurray Fires

Dan Joseph dan.b.joseph at gmail.com
Sun May 15 17:40:33 UTC 2016


Hi James,

What was the source for the traced damage extent estimates? I was
cross-referencing between the satellite imagery the Alberta government has
made available for viewing at
https://cdn.albertamapservices.ca/FortMcMurray/ and the extent polygons up
on OSM tagged name="Fort McMurray Fire Damage Estimate" and there seemed to
be differences. Also, I can't find the source now, but remember hearing
that no schools were destroyed but am seeing several schools in the OSM
damage extent polygons.

Thanks and all the best,
Dan

On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 5:16 PM, James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone OsmCanada had a meeting tonight and have traced polygons
> estimating the areas damaged and have named them "Fort McMurray Fire Damage
> Estimate". They are tagged as brownfield as the buildings have been
> destroyed or burnt down. The major areas affected are Thickwood, Beacon
> Hill and Abasand. We thought this may help the red cross immensely.
>
> Big thank you to Rps333 for the help.
>
> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 2:56 PM, Dan Joseph <dan.b.joseph at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Dale is the American Red Cross GIS Team Lead. I'm on his team and have
>> been deployed to Canada to work in-person with the Canadian Red Cross. In
>> terms of OSM-CA / Red Cross coordination, I can be considered the point of
>> contact on the RC side until someone within Canadian Red Cross is ready and
>> willing to take it on.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Dan
>>
>> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 2:44 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Have you talked to dale.kunce at redcross.org?
>>>
>>> A coordinated approach might be better.  OSM can use data obtained
>>> through the Gov Canada open data portal and has done in the past as far as
>>> I am aware.
>>>
>>> Thanks John
>>>
>>> On 13 May 2016 at 14:37, Dan Joseph <dan.b.joseph at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi James,
>>>>
>>>> It looks like some good progress is being made on the tasks.
>>>>
>>>> Tasks #22 and #23 are focused on mapping different features but it
>>>> looks like #24 overlaps in focus. Perhaps that task should be archived
>>>> until the other two are completed to avoid confusion among newcomers to the
>>>> site?
>>>>
>>>> Task #23 only provides minimal instructions (*Add address data via
>>>> GeoBase. Add missing Roads and Street names.*). Would more people feel
>>>> comfortable contributing if detailed instructions were included? It seemed
>>>> the task is referring to the dataset described here:
>>>> http://ftp2.cits.rncan.gc.ca/pub/geobase/official/nrn_rrn/doc/NRN.pdf
>>>>   Is the Canada open government licence compatible with OSM?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks and all the best,
>>>>
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 2:21 PM, James <james2432 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> What exactly do you need of me? Prioritize areas to get mapped? We
>>>>> have tasks for the buildings, addresses and streets(which I think have been
>>>>> imported via CanVec) and a validation layer
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 13, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Dan Joseph <dan.b.joseph at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm helping coordinate the Canadian Red Cross' use of GIS in their
>>>>>> activities responding to the Fort McMurray fires. Staff has been very busy
>>>>>> but we're ramping up and exploring options for how to leverage different
>>>>>> tools and data sources to support the Red Cross operations. The focus is on
>>>>>> the evacuees, many of which have dispersed to distant locations around the
>>>>>> country. When residents are allowed to return to the town and longer-term
>>>>>> recovery activities become a priority, I foresee having an excellent OSM
>>>>>> base layer as being a valuable asset. Both for facilitating operational
>>>>>> decisions, and demonstrating the power of the OSM community and easily
>>>>>> accessible geo-data with an open license!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would love to connect with those involved in coordinating the
>>>>>> current tasks up on http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/. Is the best channel
>>>>>> of communication through this list or via Skype or some other means?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> All the best,
>>>>>> Dan Joseph
>>>>>>
>>>>>> GIS Officer | International Services | American Red Cross
>>>>>> Skype danielbjoseph  |  Twitter @danbjoseph  |  OSM ID danbjoseph
>>>>>>
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