[Talk-ca] BC2020i - Solving the licensing issues

Tracey P. Lauriault tlauriau at gmail.com
Fri Feb 9 22:43:56 UTC 2018

Makes sense Stewart!

On Fri, Feb 9, 2018 at 5:37 PM, Stewart C. Russell <scruss at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 2018-02-08 08:39 PM, Tracey P. Lauriault wrote:
> >
> > OSM resembles ordnance survey as was part of the original raison
> > d'etre When it started in the UK, but that does not preclude the
> > possibility of incorporating administrative boundaries such as wards,
> > and less formal boundaries such as neighbourhoods, and potentially
> > even other cachtment are boundaries such as school boards, and police
> > districts and so on.
> The guiding principles of OSM are “How We Map”
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/How_We_Map>:
> > Contributions to OpenStreetMap should be:
> >
> > * Truthful - means that you cannot contribute something you have
> > invented.
> > * Legal - means that you don't copy copyrighted data without
> > permission.
> > * Verifiable - means that others can go there and see for themselves if
> > your data is correct.
> > * Relevant - means that you have to use tags that make clear to others
> > how to re-use the data.
> > When in doubt, also consider the "on the ground rule": map the world
> > as it can be observed by someone physically there.
> The difficulty with neighbourhoods, catchment areas and other soft
> boundaries is that they can't be verified on the ground. The only
> reference is the imported source file. Boundaries
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Boundaries> are assigned a fairly
> limited set of tags, and administrative boundaries a very
> narrowly-defined set of values
> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dadministrative>.
> Administrative boundaries tend to pile up in Nominatim's address
> resolution - I'm supposed to be living in "The Golden Mile, Scarborough,
> Toronto, Ontario" (neighbourhood, postal town, city, province), though
> no-one uses that level of detail. Also, the Federal neighbourhood points
> (imported years ago) don't match municipal neighbourhoods (according to
> the city, I'm in Kennedy Park).
> So while municipal boundaries have their place in OSM, a really good
> case (and a whole lot of convincing tagging mavens) would need to be
> made before those softer boundaries made it into OSM.
> cheers,
>  Stewart
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