[Talk-ca] Emergency Request for Tasking Manager Trainer

Thu Mar 8 19:16:49 UTC 2018

I think Matthew or James are the people to talk to.  I suspect it might
take them an hour or so which means there is an excellent chance of it
being made available before March 29th.

Cheerio John

On 8 Mar 2018 2:04 pm, "Jonathan Brown" <jonabrow at gmail.com> wrote:

> If we could clone the http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/project/91 so that it
> could be used to tag information for existing buildings in the regions of
> Durham, Northumberland and Niagara Falls, then that would be great. Can
> that be done in time for March 29?
>
> Jonathan
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> On 8 March 2018 at 10:40, Jonathan Brown <jonabrow at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Matthew. We are finalizing the mapping task on a conference call
> this afternoon at 3 pm if you have time to join in. At the Toronto OSM
> Meetup they recommended using one of the HOT Tasking Manager tasks. I
> looked at this one and found the “Project Specific Notes” helpful:
> https://tasks.hotosm.org/project/4234#bottom
>
>
>
> Could we not set up a similar project using the BC2020i framework so that
> municipalities and regions could use OSM to track local use of buildings
> for food security and other types of sustainable development projects?
>
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>
> Splitting up the work for completion in a short period of time is exactly
> what high school teachers and non-profit agencies in rural communities
> need. The Ontario Ministry of Agriculture, Food and Rural Affairs is
> working on this kind of capacity building with rural communities and youth.
>
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>
> Could the OSM Tasking Manager not be used to support those municipalities
> that have limited GIS open data capacity to sustain this type of activity?
> We want to have an OSM training session like the one you describe below in
> the morning (2-5 to 3 hours) and then give teams a task to map where they
> would be adding points of interest based on prior knowledge gathering
> before the event. The prior knowledge would be related to information about
> their school building that ties into information about municipal buildings
> in the surrounding neighbourhoods.
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> The combined information would allow them to visualize some aspect of
> local land use. Rob will be able to demonstrate how Durham Region uses
> spatial analysis for local planning purposes. In the follow-up event in the
> fall we could bring these schools back for an event that demonstrates how
> crowdsourcing and citizen science works at the local level.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
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>
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> *From: *Matthew Darwin <matthew at mdarwin.ca>
> *Sent: *Wednesday, March 7, 2018 11:19 PM
> *To: *Jonathan Brown <jonabrow at gmail.com>; talk-ca at openstreetmap.org
> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] Emergency Request for Tasking Manager Trainer
>
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>
> [prune CC list so this gets posted to the list]
>
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> I'm probably missing something, but you don't link training videos from
> the tasking manager.   The tasking manager is about splitting up some
> pre-defined mapping jobs (eg trace outline of building from bing satellite
> image), into small chunks that people can finish in a short amount of
> time.  So people don't work on things other people are already working on.
>
> If people are adding what they already know, then you don't need a tasking
> manager.  People just go ahead and add it, if it is not already there
> (checking if it is already there is important so we don't get duplicate
> things).  Presumably beginners are only going to add one thing at a time in
> ID editor, and they're all in the same room, so scope for conflict is small
> (easily solved with everyone announcing what they are doing before starting
> it).
>
> For your session later this month, it sounds to me like you want someone
> to
>
>    - introduce the topic of mapping in OSM
>    - introduce the ID editor
>    - go through some samples of things to be added
>    - then everybody get on their laptop and start trying to edit things,
>    with the leader checking what is going on
>
> (this is how my introductory session went last April when I joined a
> meetup group in Ottawa)
>
> The task manager is not needed in this scenario.
>
> But please correct me if I totally missed your point.
>
> On 2018-03-07 08:55 AM, Jonathan Brown wrote:
>
> We want to run the mapathon by setting up a task in the Tasking Manager
> with links to the OSMLearning video tutorials and use cases for the
> instruction section. We want to make the task as simple as possible (e.g.,
> adding points of interest based on participants’ local knowledge augmented
> with information from social services and NGOs who will be participating).
>
>
>
> The goal is to have the participants apply OSM morning training to a
> problem solving task in the afternoon, similar to what Sterling Quinn did
> for the Philly Fresh Food Mapathon: http://2017.phillytechweek.
> com/events/philly_mapathon
>
>
>
> We would need to add tasks to the OSM Tasking Manager that encompass the
> school boards and schools within the geography to be mapped - Durham
> Region, Niagara Region, Northumberland County, and Greater Peterborough
> area. For March 29 the priority is for Durham Region and Northumberland
> County.
>
>
>
> We are looking for a train-the-trainer model for 8-10 facilitators
> (teachers, senior secondary and postsecondary students) that can be
> repurposed for other mapathon events this spring and fall.
>
>
>
> There will be a follow-up event in the early fall. We are exploring ways
> to build this type of mapathon event into the workflows of the educational
> and local planning structures and processes at the municipal and regional
> level. Alessandro and his colleagues at the TB Open Data branch are well
> aware of what we are trying to do.
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
> *From: *Matthew Darwin <matthew at mdarwin.ca>
> *Sent: *Tuesday, March 6, 2018 9:06 PM
> *To: *Jonathan Brown <jonabrow at gmail.com>; talk-ca at openstreetmap.org
> *Cc: *Brock Baker <brock_baker at kprdsb.ca> <brock_baker at kprdsb.ca>
> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] Emergency Request for Tasking Manager Trainer
>
>
>
> Hi Jonathan,
>
> Are you trying to set up the tasking manager, or you just want to add a
> project to the existing tasking manager http://tasks.osmcanada.ca/?  If
> you describe the details of what you're trying to accomplish (look at
> existing tasks), then someone can probably add a task for you.
>
> Or do you want to know how to run a mapathon using the task manager?
>
> Or?
>
> A bit more details of what you're trying to do would be helpful...
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