[Talk-ca] Talk-ca Digest, Vol 129, Issue 15

[John Whelan]

My personal view is if we have a process that follows the rules 
available then at least there is more chance they will be followed and 
edits will not be reversed.

I might note the buildings in Regina have amazing similar outlines to 
the ones made available via the Stats Canada file but I really wouldn't 
like to say they had definitely been imported improperly.

One of the problems with the source=tag is it does get deleted from time 
to time.  Locally we have a mapper who if he adds any sort of detail to 
a highway that has source=CANVEC on it removes the source tag on the 
grounds that not all the information has come from CANVEC.   It does 
make auditing the map more difficult.

In Europe there is considerably more resistance to imports than in 
Canada but strangely enough there is a proposal going through the import 
mailing list currently for importing building outlines from government 
sources in Belgium at the moment so hopefully our proposal will meet 
less resistance than some others.

Cheerio John

OSM Volunteer stevea wrote on 2018-11-05 2:10 PM:
> On Nov 5, 2018, at 7:29 AM, keith hartley <keith.a.hartley at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I saw it was a great job. But you're correct, I have no documentation on how they did it. Licence process, wiki ( I feel Steve already yelling at his computer)
> If you mean me, I'm saddened to hear that others think I "yell."  Rather, my motivation is to see that:
>
> 1)  High quality (or VERY high quality) data are what get uploaded to OSM,
> 2)  License terms are compatible with ODbL (I respect how difficult this can be, especially with the limited bandwidth of OSM's LWG and the wide variety of activities taking place in a very widely geographically dispersed country like Canada) and
> 3)  Communication about these efforts stay within a public realm (or "more public," as in "open source based protocols" rather than "secret sauce walkie talkies" hobbled by license agreements, like Facebook/Twitter/Instagram and Slack).  Yes, primary among these are talk-ca and imports mailing lists, OSM's wiki pages, especially explicit Import Plans and Tasking Manager for projects "approved" by the wider community and actually underway.
>
> Right now, with John Whelan's (and others') recent newer thrusts to provide momentum to buildings getting entered (and/or improved) on Canada, I'm doing my best to "largely watch" (from the sidelines) what is happening right now.  I see no reason to "burn bridges" when I don't mean to or need to do that.
>
> And yes, I do know that "you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar."  (No, that isn't a slight at calling anybody "flies," rather a saying that means "positive encouragement works much better than throwing rocks").
>
> SteveA
> California

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