[Talk-ca] Nova Scotia imports, and boundary=land_area

[John Whelan]

Looks like the wiki needs amending to only list open data with the 
correct license either separately or a note added to each entry.  I have 
noticed before there is no authority listed on the wiki.

Cheerio John

Дмитрий Киселев wrote on 2018-10-21 10:28 AM:
> About source, I suppose it's
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Canada#Open_Data [12]
>
> вс, 21 окт. 2018 г. в 10:20, Frederik Ramm <frederik at remote.org 
> <mailto:frederik at remote.org>>:
>
>     Hi,
>
>     there's a mapper in Canada - Darthmouthmapper - who seems to:
>
>     1. import data from a source he calls "Nova Scotia Open Data" - I
>     am not
>     aware of any imports discussion, and the source specification is not
>     precise enough to determine the legal status of that. Judging from
>     past
>     changeset comments, whatever imports procedure is used must have a
>     number of flaws.
>
>     2. import administrative boundaries
>
>     2a. as a mesh of closed ways (where most people would prefer
>     relations),
>
>     2b. with, among other things, the tags "_Shape_Area_=yes",
>     "addrcountry=Canada" (no colon!), "addr:postcode" (which is not
>     generally used for objects that do not represent an address), and
>     "type=land_area" (which is not generally used on closed ways).
>
>     2c. The combination of a level-8 admin boundary and place=village is
>     also unusual (eg https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/616463020) but I
>     cannot judge if this is normal in Canada. This is also used in
>     residential areas https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/636390857 - is
>     this
>     area really a "village"?
>
>     3. use a ton of is_in tags which are highly unusual nowadays
>
>     4. occasionally change existing relations (not ways) from
>     type=boundary
>     to type=land_area
>     (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8417484/history)
>
>     5. add addr:postcode and addr:province to place=village nodes
>
>     6. revert corrections applied to this by other users, claiming
>     that "The
>     video and instructions state these can be part of the ways"
>
>     A number of people have complained in the past
>     http://resultmaps.neis-one.org/osm-discussion-comments?uid=698649&commented
>     but many of the issues seem to be present still.
>
>     Before I ask him to fix this -- are any of the behaviours / mapping
>     techniques outlined above somehow usual in Canada?
>
>     Bye
>     Frederik
>
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