[Talk-ca] Tagging sidewalks as separate ways and issues with bicycle routing

[John Whelan]

I'd recommend bicycle=no and I live in Ottawa.  In Ottawa footpaths that 
connect in general are bicycle=yes as they come under municipal 
regulation but a sidewalk on a highway comes under provincial 
legislation which bans bicycles on sidewalks.  Sparks street is fun I 
think you are not permitted to ride your bicycle but I'm unsure if this 
is provincial, municipal or it might even be NCC which is federal of course.

In the UK they are banned by law but in certain cities the Chief 
Constable has stated the law will not be enforced within the police 
force boundaries as a letter of interpretation.  It might be nice for 
Ottawa to do the same sometime but there again we have City of Ottawa 
police, OPP, RCMP and of course the PPS.

Cheerio John

James wrote on 2020-04-03 10:25 AM:
> I don't think it's more tagging for the renderer as much as it's being 
> more specific(more data) to specify a abstract view: without knowledge 
> of Canadian/Provincial/Municipal laws about biking on sidewalks.
>
> I think Montreal and Gatineau are more enforced as Ottawa it is 
> illegal to bike on the sidewalk, but people are still doing it, but 
> that's beside the point.
>
> On Fri., Apr. 3, 2020, 10:18 a.m. Pierre-Léo Bourbonnais via Talk-ca, 
> <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-ca at openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
>
>     Hi!
>
>     I would like to start a discussion on how we should deal with
>     sidewalks tagged separately, like it is is done in downtown Ottawa
>     and like we are starting to do in the Montreal region.
>
>     The issue is that by default highway=footway with or without
>     footway=sidewalk should have an implicit bicycle=no by default
>     according to this page:
>     https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access_restrictions
>
>     However, some osm users told me I should tag them with bicycle=no
>     everywhere because routing engines use sidewalks for bicycle
>     routing which is illegal in most part of Canada.
>
>     What are your thoughts on this ? Should we adapt to routing
>     engines or should routing engines fix the issue themselves?
>
>     Thanks!
>
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