[Talk-ca] Route reference tagging: time for change?

[Kevin Farrugia]

Hey Jherome,

In the past in Ontario we've reverted changes that added those prefixes.
They're not on the signs that are posted (ex. You don't see RR7 on Highway
7 or "ON QEW") so they don't make sense to add and don't really confer
anything important. Operator information is kept in the relation so of
someone wants roads owned by the province they can extract the relation.

In the US they usually prefix the route numbers or signs with the state or
federal short form so it makes more sense.

My 2 cents anyways. Not sure if others in the province have an opinion or
have changed their minds.

Cheers,
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Kevin

On Sun., Jul. 4, 2021, 2:52 a.m. Jherome Miguel, <jheromemiguel at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I’ve been considering a major change to the way we tag highway ref=
> values, trying to follow the lead with our neighbours stateside.
> Currently practice has been to use bare route numbers except in Manitoba,
> where the number is preceded by PTH, PR or Route depending on type of
> route; for the data user’s end, the rendered shield is generally dependent
> on the tagged classification of the road (mostly tied to the road’s
> official classification by the provincial or territorial transportation
> ministry), the province or territory, and the network tag in the route’s
> relation.
>
> The proposal for route numbers is, by type of road:
> - For provincial and territorial highways, add province/territory postal
> abbreviation before number (e.g. AB 2 for Alberta Highway 2, ON 401 for
> Ontario Highway 401, BC 5 for BC Highway 5, NS 101 for Nova Scotia Highway
> 5), except perhaps Manitoba provincial highways (can keep ref=* with PTH
> for provincial trunk highways including the Trans-Canada and the
> Yellowhead, and PR for provincial roads). This includes routes with special
> shields different from provincial or territorial towns standard designs
> (e.g. the TransCan, BC Highway 5 as the South Yellowhead, the Mackenzie
> Highway). The QEW will remain as it is. For highways forming the TransCan,
> it can be tagged as a second ref= value, as TCH.
> - For Ontario regional and county roads, add CR or RR before number
> depending on the type of municipality the road is in.
> - For Toronto expressways (the Gardiner, the Allen, the DVP), there will
> be no changes.
> - For Winnipeg city routes, there will be no changes.
>
> Any further ideas? Comments?
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