[Talk-ca] Route reference tagging: time for change?

[Jarek Piórkowski]

Hi Jherome,

What are the reasons for this proposed change, other than consistency
with the USA?

What are the advantages of having freeways with refs ON 401 and QC 10
rather than 401 and 10?

Where there are duplicate highway refs in the country such as highway
2 in Alberta and in Saskatchewan, how is this different from highway
ref I 280 in California and I 280 in New Jersey?

As a few implementation details, Hamilton is a single-tier
municipality, at same administrative level as counties or regional
municipalities. What prefix would you give its numbered roads? How
about the Municipality of Chatham-Kent or City of Greater Sudbury
(both also single-tier)?

Cheers,
Jarek
Toronto, Ontario

On Sun, 4 Jul 2021 at 02:51, Jherome Miguel <jheromemiguel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I’ve been considering a major change to the way we tag highway ref= values, trying to follow the lead with our neighbours stateside.
> Currently practice has been to use bare route numbers except in Manitoba, where the number is preceded by PTH, PR or Route depending on type of route; for the data user’s end, the rendered shield is generally dependent on the tagged classification of the road (mostly tied to the road’s official classification by the provincial or territorial transportation ministry), the province or territory, and the network tag in the route’s relation.
>
> The proposal for route numbers is, by type of road:
> - For provincial and territorial highways, add province/territory postal abbreviation before number (e.g. AB 2 for Alberta Highway 2, ON 401 for Ontario Highway 401, BC 5 for BC Highway 5, NS 101 for Nova Scotia Highway 5), except perhaps Manitoba provincial highways (can keep ref=* with PTH for provincial trunk highways including the Trans-Canada and the Yellowhead, and PR for provincial roads). This includes routes with special shields different from provincial or territorial towns standard designs (e.g. the TransCan, BC Highway 5 as the South Yellowhead, the Mackenzie Highway). The QEW will remain as it is. For highways forming the TransCan, it can be tagged as a second ref= value, as TCH.
> - For Ontario regional and county roads, add CR or RR before number depending on the type of municipality the road is in.
> - For Toronto expressways (the Gardiner, the Allen, the DVP), there will be no changes.
> - For Winnipeg city routes, there will be no changes.
>
> Any further ideas? Comments?
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