[Talk-ca] Open addresses from Statistics Canada

[Justin Tracey]

Let me rephrase: I'm not a lawyer, but my understanding is that statcan 
got permission from the respective sources to release this dataset under 
the OGL Canada, which is an approved license. So if you get the data 
from the ODA itself, it's been approved for importing to OSM by the 
legal team.

What is not clear is *how* they got this permission. If it was exclusive 
agreements with each data provider, this says nothing about the upstream 
sources; just like how a company releasing a version of their software 
under the GPL doesn't mean all versions of that software are GPL 
(companies with open-core funding models do this all the time). If, on 
the other hand, it was the case that statcan had a lawyer go through all 
these open licenses and conclude each of them were compatible with the 
OGL Canada, then that would be good information for the legal team to 
know, because it presumably means those licenses are also compatible 
with the ODbL. Until we have some strong evidence that's what happened 
though, I'd stick to assuming the former, and only pulling data from 
statcan.

  - Justin

On 2021-05-23 2:41 p.m., James wrote:
> would it though? as the data obtained from stats can is under one 
> license to simplify the process, cities give their data so it can be 
> licensed under it. It's not a dual license type situation.
> 
> On Sun., May 23, 2021, 2:39 p.m. Justin Tracey, <j3tracey at gmail.com 
> <mailto:j3tracey at gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
>     The individual licenses for each municipality have to be approved
>     individually (they do sometimes make changes incompatible with the
>     ODbL), but this dataset is re-licensed under OGL Canada, which has been
>     approved:
> 
>     https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/OGL_Canada_and_local_variants
>     <https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/OGL_Canada_and_local_variants>
> 
>        - Justin
> 
>     On 2021-05-23 10:12 a.m., James wrote:
>      > Yes it has, but we agreed in the past each city would have to
>     apply via
>      > the import process and not a blanket.
>      >
>      > We did Ottawa via the ODB.
>      >
>      > On Sun., May 23, 2021, 10:10 a.m. Jarek Piórkowski,
>     <jarek at piorkowski.ca <mailto:jarek at piorkowski.ca>
>      > <mailto:jarek at piorkowski.ca <mailto:jarek at piorkowski.ca>>> wrote:
>      >
>      >     Has its licence, "Open Government Licence – Canada", been
>     cleared by
>      >     OSM legal with that specific name?
>      >
>      >     Here is the link:
>     https://www.statcan.gc.ca/eng/lode/databases/oda
>     <https://www.statcan.gc.ca/eng/lode/databases/oda>
>      >     <https://www.statcan.gc.ca/eng/lode/databases/oda
>     <https://www.statcan.gc.ca/eng/lode/databases/oda>>
>      >     (the ZIPs aren't downloading right now, might be everyone
>     trying to
>      >     download them?)
>      >
>      >     It claims to include postal code which could be pretty useful
>     for OSM
>      >     as I don't think there's any other open datasets with
>     Canadian postal
>      >     codes
>      >
>      >     On Sun, 23 May 2021 at 10:00, john whelan
>     <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com <mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>
>      >     <mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com
>     <mailto:jwhelan0112 at gmail.com>>> wrote:
>      >      >
>      >      > According to weeklyosm these are now available.
>      >      >
>      >      > Cheerio John
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