[Talk-ca] First Nations reserve naming
Michael Stark
michael60634 at gmail.com
Wed Dec 7 23:45:16 UTC 2022
Yes, I saw that the address uses "Tsuut'ina Nation". And that is why I used
"Tsuut'ina Nation" when entering the address of buildings on their reserve.
You can see that here <https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/14972977>.
But again, there is the problem of how to accurately represent the data. In
my previous message here, I mentioned that the nation and the reserve do
have different tags, other than just the name. So how can that be
represented accurately? I believe the best solution is that there should be
two relations. One relation for the nation, and one relation for the
reserve, with each having their respective tags. This is the norm for other
reserves in the area. And yes, I know that everything needs to be
considered on a case-by-case basis. I am not saying anything in my edits is
set in stone. If something is not accurate with one of the relations, it
should be fixed.
On Wed, Dec 7, 2022 at 8:32 AM Pierre Béland via Talk-ca <
talk-ca at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> Pour moi, Développer une communauté et la carte OSM cela ce fait en
> gardant le plaisir de participer, puis oui en évitant les accusations et
> et menaces de renverser les éditions.
>
> Lors de la recherche de noms sur le site https://toponymes.rncan.gc.ca une
> mise en garde est affichée
> «La base de données toponymiques du Canada contient une terminologie
> historique qui est considérée comme raciste, offensante et dérogatoire. Les
> autorités de dénomination géographique travaillent actuellement à
> l'élimination de nombreux toponymes offensants».
>
> La communauté OSM, nous devons donc être flexibles et réviser les noms qui
> nous semblent inappropriés sur les sites officiels. Il est possible de
> faire une recherche de l'adresse. Puis bien sûr, ceux qui ont la
> connaissance locale de la communauté peuvent réviser le nom.
>
> Le nom Tsuut'ina Nation est ce qui est utilisé dans l'adresse du conseil
> de bande sur la page https://tsuutina.com/contact/. Étant donné qu'il
> n'y a qu'un polygone pour représenter le territoire de la nation et le
> village de la communauté, je suggère de ne conserver qu'un seul polygone.
>
> Pierre
>
>
> Le mardi 6 décembre 2022 à 19 h 02 min 42 s UTC−5, stevea <
> steveaosm at softworkers.com> a écrit :
>
>
> I earlier mentioned boundary=protected_area + protect_class=24 as an
> historic artifact, and that I had some minor history in "easing into a
> transition" that these be "better" tagged boundary=aboriginal_lands. [1]
>
> To be clear: I (and I believe many others) prefer that these be tagged
> with boundary=aboriginal_lands (not using the protect_class key).
>
> As for the other keys / tags that might be used, I am certain the Canada
> community in OSM can come to reasonable guidelines on best practices on how
> to do this. Indeed, this could one day in the not-too-far future be seen
> as a "model project" for how this might be done for the whole of Earth —
> with the principles of more-local / indigenous peoples guiding, of course.
>
> [1] https://wiki.osm.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Tag:boundary%3Daboriginal_lands#Movement_towards_the_deprecation_of_protect_class=24
> <
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Tag:boundary%3Daboriginal_lands#Movement_towards_the_deprecation_of_protect_class=24
> >
>
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