[Talk-ca] What do I poutine the name tag of a road with a suffix?

[Brian M. Sperlongano]

Again "someone told me something offhand" is not useful or helpful for
public discussion.

If the Calgary mapping community has a convention to map streets exactly
according to a specific government database or to satisfy a specific data
consumer, then I await their description of specifically what the standards
are so that mappers can map freely to documented standards without being
harassed.

On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 11:17 PM Michael Stark <michael60634 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hey Brian,
>
> I believe you accidentally replied to me specifically instead of clicking
> "reply all".
>
> "Anecdotal stories which can't be publicly examined are not helpful."
>
> I don't know the name of the software in question. All I know is that the
> person that uses this software contacted me after my changes broke it. I
> don't know if he wants to be identified here as he has told me that he has
> had past issues with mailing list, so I have not mentioned his name.
>
> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 9:54 PM Michael Stark <michael60634 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Brian,
>>
>> I'll jump in to answer your questions.
>>
>> The names are abbreviated in Calgary (and most other places in Alberta)
>> because that's how they are officially written. It's not something local
>> mappers decided.
>>
>> I don't have a specific example, but the mapper I was talking to whose
>> software broke works in the oil and gas industry. I assume the software
>> broke because the OSM names didn't match the official names from the
>> provincial or local government.
>>
>> I hope these answers are helpful.
>>
>> Warm regards,
>> Michael
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 9:39 PM Brian M. Sperlongano <
>> zelonewolf at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 12, 2022 at 10:17 PM Hoser AB <hoserab1 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well Brian, the answer to question 1 is pretty straight forward: I
>>>> don't really know whether it's more or less ignored or accepted
>>>> in Washington, District of Columbia (abbreviations are a no-no, don'tcha
>>>> know? ;) ). And I don't really care either.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm sorry, but this does not answer my question.  I'll state it again:
>>>
>>> Is the decision to abbreviate names in Calgary based on something
>>> different about Calgary from the rest of the world, or is it just a
>>> convention that local mappers have chosen based on preference?  Please
>>> forgive me for asking this directly, as it's the crux of the discussion.
>>>
>>>
>>>> With respect to question 2, there are users of OSM data for whom making
>>>> a seemingly subtle change from e.g. "37 Street SW" to "Thirty-seventh
>>>> Street Southwest" is going to break the functionality of whatever it is
>>>> they're using it for
>>>>
>>>
>>> Can you give a specific example of software that will break by following
>>> the global convention to abbreviate names, or is this just a hypothetical?
>>> How does that software deal with the rest of the world using expanded
>>> (non-abbreviated) names?
>>>
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