[Talk-ca] "Highway X" and the like as names

[Andrew Lester]

At least in BC, the highways are often signed as "Highway X" at major intersections*, in addition to the shield signs along the way. Based on the on-the-ground principle, this is what we should be using for the name tag. I can't speak for how other provinces handle the signage. 

Beyond the above, like Martin pointed out, the name of a way tagged with highway=primary and ref=10 would be ambiguous. The only way a data consumer could know that this is "Highway 10" is if we add that name. Otherwise, it's "A road of some kind that's referred to by the number 10 by some authority". 

So, no, I don't think there's redundancy here. Both the name and ref are needed. 

(*or a more specific name, such as "Alberni Highway", which is then what we would use) 

Andrew 
Victoria, BC 


From: "Kevin Farrugia" <kevinfarrugia at gmail.com> 
To: "Martin Chalifoux" <martin.chalifoux at icloud.com> 
Cc: "Jherome Miguel" <jheromemiguel at gmail.com>, "talk-ca" <talk-ca at openstreetmap.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2022 3:23:18 PM 
Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] "Highway X" and the like as names 

In Ontario highways have names found in government data and are signed with those names, so I'd keep them here. The number is simply a reference number to the actual full name, or in the case of the QEW a short form for the full name. 
-Kevin 

On Wed., Jan. 19, 2022, 5:58 p.m. Martin Chalifoux via Talk-ca, < [ mailto:talk-ca at openstreetmap.org | talk-ca at openstreetmap.org ] > wrote: 



No. It is the rendering engine job’s to remove it if it chooses to. But we must include it. It is not possible to infer how a road is designated ie road, highway, parkway, street, avenue etc. This is meaningful info to include. 

Martin Chalifoux 
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Should we be removing or replacing "Highway x" and the like names as redundant with highway number (tagged ref=), as like what is already being done south of the border? I've done this with roads in Alberta, either removing them or replacing them with range/township road numbers where posted (in provinces that follow Dominion land system) or other posted road names, or route names as found in trailblazer signs, but some of those "names" got restored. 
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