[Talk-ca] [Talk-us] "Highway X" and the like as names

[john whelan]

So in your example of a house address I personally would fall back on the
official Canada Post mailing address and use that highway name for the name
or is that too simple?

Cheerio John



On Sat, Jan 22, 2022, 9:46 PM Jherome Miguel, <jheromemiguel at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I’m talking about predominant usage to record in the name=* tag, which can
> be uncertain, and you might want a name that should be the most useful for
> the most data users. In this situation, you got some name in addition to
> "Highway X". Sometimes, those names are commonly used (e.g. Trans-Canada,
> QE2, Yellowhead, Anthony Henday), and in others, its just the number (as in
> my local examples; the road has name[s] but is more commonly referred to by
> number). The name is on signs at intersections, interchanges or
> on-/off-ramps or the trailblazer at about every 20 km, but locals will use
> the highway number for directions or rural addressing. I did replace cases
> of "Highway X" across Alberta, but the address signs may say something as
> "1234 Highway X", and/or the locals will use the highway number for
> wayfinding.
>
> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 6:59 PM John Whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Local usage can be difficult to define.  I might refer to things
>> differently than perhaps my neighbour does and again it might depend whom
>> I'm speaking to as to which term I might use.
>>
>> Cheerio John
>>
>>
>> Jherome Miguel wrote on 1/22/2022 6:56 PM:
>>
>> Continuing on, I would like to also bring up cases of some highways in
>> Alberta that got also their own names. While most would generally have a
>> number only, there are also plenty of those highways that got names
>> (range/township road names aside) for whole or parts of, posted in either
>> normal signs, trailblazer, or special shield, such as:
>>
>> - Highway 1: Trans-Canada Highway
>> - Highway 2 through Calgary: Deerfoot Trail
>> - Highway 2 Calgary-Edmonton: Queen Elizabeth 2 Highway
>> - Highway 2 Grimshaw-Athabasca and Highway 55: Northern Woods and Water
>> Route (NWWR)
>> - Highway 3: Crowsnest Highway
>> - Highway 5 Waterton NP-Cardston, Highway 6 Pincher Creek-Waterton NP,
>> and Highway 21: Cowboy Trail
>> - Highway 11 Icefields Parkway–Red Deer: David Thompson Highway
>> - Highway 14: Poundmaker Trail
>> - Highway 16: Yellowhead Highway
>> - Highway 16A from west of Stony Plain to Edmonton city limit: Parkland
>> Highway
>> - Highway 33: Grizzly Trail
>> - Highway 35: McKenzie Highway
>> - Highway 36: Veterans Memorial Highway
>> - Highway 40: Hinton–Grande Prairie: Bighorn Highway
>> - Highway 60: Devonian Way
>> - Highway 88: Bicentennial Highway
>> - Highway 93 BC border–TCH interchange: Banff-Windermere Highway
>> - Highway 93 Lake Louise-Jasper: Icefields Parkway
>> - Highway 201: Stoney and Tsuutina Trails
>> - Highway 216: Anthony Henday Drive
>>
>> While most of those names have been added in OSM, the problem however is
>> they sometimes conflict with actual local usage. While some of those names
>> have been in common usage, the most known being Trans-Canada (sometimes
>> shortened to TCH), the Deerfoot and Queen Elizabeth II Highway (also
>> shortened to "QE2"), the Yellowhead, the Mackenzie Highway, the Icefields
>> Parkway (and also most highways within Banff), and both Stoney Trail and
>> Anthony Henday (almost never referred by number locally), I would like to
>> point that some highways that got names are sometimes better known locally
>> by their number than their name. For example, Highway 16A, in my local
>> area, is named Parkland Highway, but is almost always called Highway 16A,
>> even in Stony Plain and Spruce Grove. The Edmonton portion of Highway 16A
>> is named Stony Plain Road (and 100 Ave on one-way eastbound approach to
>> Anthony Henday) and always referred to as such. I can say the same for
>> Devonian Way, which is always called Highway 60. For the other cases, local
>> input from fellow Albertans is needed.
>>
>> Also another thing especially in rural Alberta is highways may be locally
>> posted with a range/township road number. I sometimes used those names to
>> replace "Highway X" where posted, but like with the case of highways with
>> special names mentioned above, it may not necessarily follow actual local
>> usage.
>>
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