[Talk-ca] [Talk-us] "Highway X" and the like as names

[Kevin Farrugia]

Maybe:
* Relation with the highway name, ex: name=Highway 21
* Local segments with signed name get the name from the sign but keep ref
number, ex:
** in Kneehill County==> name=Range Road 235, ref=21, alt_name=Highway 21;
** in Red Deer County==> name=Highway 21, ref=21

I think changing the name on the way is fine if the signs show that name
since it's important for navigation.  The naming tag allows multiple names
if required, check out these two entries: (1)
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Names#Multiple_names (2)
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name#Multiple_names

-Kevin

On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 at 16:32, john whelan <jwhelan0112 at gmail.com> wrote:

> So it would be nice to find a generic solution.  Alt name 1, alt name 2?
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On Sun, Jan 23, 2022, 16:03 Kevin Farrugia <kevinfarrugia at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hmm, poking around Ontario I've found some similar cases.  What's done
>> here is that the relation holds the overarching name (ex: Highway 7), the
>> way itself is given that name if it's signed as Highway 7, but if the road
>> is signed as something else it's named using that name (ex: Huron Road) and
>> sometimes has the highway name in brackets (ex: Line 34 (Highway 8)).  You
>> can see all 3 types in and around Stratford for Highway 8:
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/43.3703/-80.9809.  It seems that
>> it's based off of the sign in that area.  Verbally people would likely
>> refer to the road in the rural area as "Highway 8".
>>
>> And like Jarek said, address and street name aren't necessarily coupled.
>> People in rural areas will use street name or street reference (Hwy 8) for
>> addresses but Canada Post seems to figure it out.  I'd say worry about the
>> street way matching the sign rather than the address range.
>>
>> Hope that doesn't muddy the waters further,
>> Kevin
>>
>> On Sun, 23 Jan 2022 at 14:56, Jherome Miguel <jheromemiguel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> You may also think of Highway 21 in Kneehill County as another example.
>>> It follows Range Road 235 (or Range Road 23-5) and is signed locally as
>>> such, but addresses (in the smaller blue signs like the one in the photo)
>>> use Highway 21. In Red Deer County, both street signs and addresses use
>>> Highway 21. Such mismatches with local signage and addresses are not
>>> uncommon, and the situation can vary from one municipality to another, but
>>> it seems while the house numbers will follow the Dominion system (the first
>>> digits usually indicating the range or township under the system), if the
>>> property is accessible from a highway, the road name on the address will be
>>> the highway number unless it's on a service road (which usually inherits
>>> the range/township road number, being a realignment of the original since
>>> an upgrade of a local road to highway will come with limiting direct
>>> accesses). Some (rural) municipalities would locally name highways with
>>> range/township road numbers, but others would just post them as "Highway
>>> X".
>>> Even complex are highways that do get three names: Highway X, a
>>> range/township road number, and a special name.
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