[Talk-ca] Nanaimo street address data

[john whelan]

Whilst I think about it for the labour force survey Stats actually pays its
interviewers to record all new buildings with their street numbers in their
area to ensure it has all the buildings in.  Note certain areas such as
military bases and reservations are not covered as the labour force or
unemployment survey does not cover them.

This means the survey sample is more accurate, and that means it can sell
enriched data for a premium.  When labour force runs by law you must answer
but it is also used to carry supplementary surveys at the same time.  These
are not subject to the must answer law.  One would be the landline phone
survey which was run for Bell so they could demonstrate to CRTC that people
could still afford telephones.  Only 94% of respondents who responded to
the LBS chose to respond.  Bell was quite happy to pay stats to run the
survey.  Stats formal methods mean its data is accepted as being more
accurate than other survey companies.  Typical response rates can be twice
as high using the same questions as American survey companies and that
means higher accuracy so you can charge more.

It doesn't rely on the municipalities for this data.  The building outline
data does come from a variety is sourced and is rereleased under licence.

Cheerio John

On Sat, Apr 20, 2024, 00:56 David E. Nelson via Talk-ca, <
talk-ca at openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> The problem here is that StatCan may have gotten that data from sources
> that are not licence-compatible with OSM, and I am not sure if that would
> jeopardize the use of StatCan's data in OSM.  Did the LWG ever weigh in on
> this concern?
>
> - David E. Nelson
> DENelson83 on OpenStreetMap
>
> On Apr. 19, 2024 19:26, Kevin Farrugia <kevinfarrugia at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hey David,
>
> I'm on my phone so it's a bit hard to check what cities are included in
> the BC data, but check out the StatsCan LODE address dataset. They
> aggregate and standardize data from local and provincial open data sites
> and their license is approved for OSM.
>
> https://www.statcan.gc.ca/en/lode/databases/oda
>
> -Kevin
>
> On Fri, Apr 19, 2024, 8:38 p.m. David E. Nelson via Talk-ca <
> talk-ca at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
> I would like to see all of the street addresses in Nanaimo in
> OpenStreetMap.  However, it is unfeasible for me to gather this address
> data myself in a ground survey for two reasons: Nanaimo is very sprawled,
> and I live too far away in Courtenay.  So if I am to be able to do this, I
> need to find a third-party database that is as up-to-date as possible, and
> more crucially, is licence-compatible with OSM.  I would then proceed to
> add this data manually, starting with determining using the Overpass API
> which street addresses in Nanaimo are already in OSM, so I do not duplicate
> them.  Do you have any ideas for how I might be able to proceed with this?
>
> - David E. Nelson
> DENelson83 on OpenStreetMap
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