[Talk-cat] Entrevista per a OpenCageData

Carlos Sánchez erielkhan at gmail.com
Mon May 11 23:37:00 UTC 2015


A la tarda de dimarts ho envio. feu-hi un cop d'ull abans per a poder-ho
revisar.

*1. Who are you and what do you do? What got you into OpenStreetMap?*

We are the OpenStreetMap's catalan speakers community
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Catalan>. We found a common
goal that mixed geospatial information and the promotion of the catalan
language. OSM is the answer to our goal. It provides a open data base which
allows us to add local information and in catalan, freely.

The effort of Google to translate into spanish all the catalan streets and
ways that are officially and in the reality written in catalan, resulted in
a huge mess and a sum of protests that continues nowadays when somebody
tries to find a street or a square. This fact helped to promote and be seen
as an open alternative, OpenStreetMap.

*2. What would you say is the current state of OSM and the OSM community in
Catalunya? *

Nowadays, the ways have a good quality thanks to a hard work made in the
past. There's a good work involving the paths and mountain hiking routes.
The map is currently growing and with a high level of detail in some areas.
But there's a lot of work to do in the urban areas.

We had the pleasure to be part of the SotM 2010
<http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2010> which took place
in Girona. Last year, we organized our first meeting as a OSM community in
Sarrià de Ter. Since this first meeting, we started to build and shape our
community. We organized several workshops and conferences like
“OpenStreetMap for the Forest Defence Association”. A workshop which
focused on tagging forest elements, like tracks and fire hydrants and the
use of mobile applications.

We have a long path to increase our mappers and improve communication
between us.

*3. What are the unique challenges and pleasures of OpenStreetMap in
Catalunya? What aspects of the projects should the rest of the world be
aware of? *

We focused our work in some specific areas like Montuïc's cemetery, the
Barcelona's Zoo or Port Aventura. We are working with Wikipedia community
to link OSM data with Wikidata and viceversa. We finished in 2 weeks of
work without rest the addition of the wikidata tag to all the cities,
towns, provinces and regions of Catalunya.

We also started to recover the catalan names from Perpinyà in south
France. There's
also work to do to tag occitanian names in *Val d'Aran. **We are glad to
count with apps like OsmAnd that allows the use of the catalan language but
we miss yet a TTS <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speech_synthesis> in
catalan.*

Some mappers of our OSM community started to focus on 3D tagging and urban
elements as bus routes, fire hydrants or opening hours. The knowledge and
the focus on the local area lets us to improve the data and present OSM as
a reliable source data.

One of our goals is to involve governments and teach them the benefits of
open data. We are currently importing information from the Cadastro in some
areas like Girona, a work started and coordinated by the spanish OSM
community. A task that would be easier with the implication of the spanish
government. We also hope that the information from the ICGC (Catalonia's
Cartographic and Geological Institute) will be added into OSM in the future
thanks to a new transparency law.

*4. What steps could the global OpenStreetMap community take to help
support OSM in the Catal**uny**a specifically?*

OSM helped us by letting create a non-state community. Maybe, we expect to
increase the strength of the communication and feedback with the rest of
the OSM communities.

*5. Last year OSM celebrated its 10th birthday, where do you think the
project will be in 10 years time, both globally and Catal**unya**?*

In 10 years, the detail of information will be awesome. Thanks to a
increase of mappers and interest in open data. It will experiment a process
similar as Wikipedia. It will become, hopefully, in an essential resource
that with better information will compete with comercial alternatives.

We hope more governments and administrations will discontinue the use of
comercial maps and payment data and support open data. Some of our city
councils start to join OSM by using their maps or by open their data bases
to OSM mappers. A fact that will continue growing because open data is also
a way to optimize and save money and resources and to promotes the creation
of companies linked to the use of open data.

El dia 9 de maig de 2015, 10:58, yo paseopor <yopaseopor a gmail.com> ha
escrit:

> Jo hi afegiria que donat que som comunitat oberta, amb coneixement del
> territori fa que els nostres materials siguin més ajustats i actualitzats
> que qualsevol altra solució comercial i/o governamental, la qual cosa pot
> portar a governs i administracions a col·laborar, quan no substituir o
> integrar Openstreetmap, ja sigui tema ADFs i bombers, ajuntaments com el de
> Sarrià de Ter que ens va escoltar, o en un futur altres ajuntaments o fins
> i tot la Generalitat de Catalunya. Al cap i a la fi és optimitzar recursos
> i estalviar-se diners, i la nostra comunitat hi tindrà un paper fonamental.
>
> Salut i resposta
> yopaseopor
>
> 2015-05-08 12:47 GMT+02:00 josep constantí <jconstanti a yahoo.es>:
>
>> Jo crec que en 10 anys OSM tindrà una qualitat de primer ordre, amb un
>> efecte 'bola de neu' més qualitat actual accelera la qualitat futura,
>> superant les opcions comercials com ara ho està fent la Viquipèdia al seu
>> àmbit.
>>
>> En ser obert es pot incloure nova informació no contemplada en altres
>> opcions:  amplada via,  alçada finca...
>>
>> Salutacions
>>
>> Josep
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> <https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android>
>> ------------------------------
>>   *From*:"Carlos Sánchez" <erielkhan a gmail.com>
>> *Date*:dv., maig 8, 2015 at 11:37
>> *Subject*:Re: [Talk-cat] Entrevista per a OpenCageData
>>
>> Si ningú diu res més aquest cap de setmana redacto la resposta a
>> l'entrevista, integrant el que heu anat comentant.
>>
>> El dia 6 de maig de 2015, 15:37, Konfrare Albert <
>> lakonfrariadelavila a gmail.com> ha escrit:
>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Me n'havia oblidat
>>>
>>> El dia 6/5/15, Wladimir Szczerban <bolosig a gmail.com> ha escrit:
>>> > Hola a todos,
>>> >
>>> > Yo creo que uno de los retos que tiena la comunidad de OSM en
>>> catalunya es
>>> > lograr que el ICGC permita usar sus datos como fuente de datos para
>>> OSM.
>>> > Aunque parece que con la ley de transparencia esto será posible, creo
>>> que
>>> > se debería hacer entender al ICGC de los beneficios (tanto para el ICGC
>>> > como para OSM) de colaborar.
>>> >
>>> > Saludos,
>>> > Bolo
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2015-05-05 22:47 GMT+02:00 Konfrare Albert <
>>> lakonfrariadelavila a gmail.com>:
>>> >
>>> >> Bones,
>>> >>
>>> >> Alguns aspectes -una mica desordenats- a tenir en compte (des del meu
>>> >> punt
>>> >> de vista):
>>> >>
>>> >>    - Evidentment el tema de la llengua penso que per nosaltres és un
>>> tema
>>> >>    cabdal. De fet, quan Google va «castellanitzar» els noms dels
>>> carrers,
>>> >> etc
>>> >>    va ser una gran oportunitat per donar a conèixer OSM. També és
>>> >> important
>>> >>    que aplicacions com l'OsmAnd permetin utilitzar el mapa amb
>>> >> l'etiquetatge
>>> >>    en català.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>    - Sobre l'estat d'OSM a Catalunya jo destacaria la gran feinada que
>>> >>    s'ha fet en vies terrestres i també la gran quantitat de senders de
>>> >>    muntanya que hi ha traçats. Pel que fa a les poblacions encara hi
>>> ha
>>> >> molta
>>> >>    a feina a fer, encara que les principals tenen un bon nivell de
>>> >> detall.
>>> >>    També destacaria la feina recent que es va fer en col·laboració amb
>>> >> els
>>> >>    viquipedistes per entrar les etiquetes Wikidata, i també em faria
>>> ressò
>>> >> de
>>> >>    les actuacions que s'han fet en indrets com el cementiri de
>>> Montjuïc,
>>> >> el
>>> >>    Zoològic o Port Aventura. Podria ser interessant comentar el
>>> taller amb
>>> >> els
>>> >>    ADF. També podríem comentar la importació de Girona (SoTM) i que
>>> s'ha
>>> >>    començat a importar el cadastre en algunes poblacions (projecte
>>> heredat
>>> >> de
>>> >>    la comunitat OSM Espanya). També es podria comentar el projecte de
>>> >>    recuperar la nomenclatura dels carrers de Perpinyà en català
>>> (d'això
>>> >>    segurament el Felip ens podrà donar més detalls).
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>    - Sobre els 10 anys d'OSM, jo penso que a Catalunya l'evolució de
>>> les
>>> >>    dades a OSM han crescut exponencialment. La meva opinió és que
>>> >> continuaran
>>> >>    creixent i que en els propers 10 anys el nivell de detall serà
>>> >>    impressionant.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>    - En què ens pot ajudar la comunitat d'OSM? Jo penso que ja ens ha
>>> >>    ajudat en dos aspectes fonamentals:
>>> >>       - Permetre traduir, utilitzar etiquetes en català, etc... és a
>>> dir,
>>> >>       ser 100% obert
>>> >>       - Permetre'ns crear una «comunitat» malgrat no disposar d'Estat
>>> >>       propi. Sembla una obvietat, però em consta que en altres
>>> comunitats
>>> >> això no
>>> >>       és tan obvi i que no els és tan fàcil.
>>> >>       - Un problema que no és culpa d'OSM és per exemple, no disposar
>>> de
>>> >>       TTS gratuïts en català. De cara a publicitar l'OsmAnd -per
>>> exemple-
>>> >> com a
>>> >>       GPS ens perjudica.
>>> >>
>>> >> Bé, ara per ara no se m'acut res més.
>>> >>
>>> >> Ja direu i ja posaré cullerada si cal.
>>> >>
>>> >> Salut! ;)
>>> >>
>>> >> 2015-05-02 10:46 GMT+02:00 Carlos Sánchez <erielkhan a gmail.com>:
>>> >>
>>> >>> M'han fet arribar unes preguntes a OSMcatala per al blog
>>> d'OpenCageData.
>>> >>> Us passo les preguntes per tal de poder elaborar una resposta
>>> conjunta,
>>> >>> tot posant en comú idees o temes a parlar.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Us paso a continuació les preguntes. La setmana entrant miraré
>>> d'enviar
>>> >>> resposta conjunta amb la recopilació de temes i idees parlats per
>>> aquí.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *1. Who are you and what do you do? What got you into OpenStreetMap?*
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *2. What would you say is the current state of OSM and the OSM
>>> community
>>> >>> in Catalonia? *
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *3. What are the unique challenges and pleasures of OpenStreetMap in
>>> >>> Catalonia? What aspects of the projects should the rest of the world
>>> be
>>> >>> aware of? *
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *4. What steps could the global OpenStreetMap community take to help
>>> >>> support OSM in the Catalonia specifically?*
>>> >>>
>>> >>> *5**. Last year OSM celebrated its 10th birthday, where do you think
>>> the
>>> >>> project will be in 10 years time, both globally and Catalonia?*
>>> >>>
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>>> >
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > Saludos,
>>> >
>>> > Bolo
>>> > www.geoinquiets.cat
>>> >
>>>
>>>
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