[Talk-cl] [Fwd: Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Re: Open Imagery for Chile]

Jean-Guilhem Cailton jgc en arkemie.com
Mar Mar 2 08:41:09 GMT 2010

Forwarding to Chile OSM list.

Extract :*

Areas con prioridad según ONEMI el 2 de marzo 2010
"Priority Areas as informed by ONEMI on 2 March 2010*

    * 1.- Constitución: -72,40964 -35,33523
    * 2.- Dichato: -72,93464 -36,54807
    * 3.- Tomé: -72,95417 -36,6146
    * 4.- Talcahuano: -73,12208 -36,71731
    * 5.- Pichilemu: -72,01315 -34,4085
    * 6.- Llolleo: -71,61046 -33,61521
    * 7.- Concepción: -73,05592 -36,82244
    * 8.- Talca: -71,69648 -34,10332
    * 9.- Juan Fernández: -78,64529 -33,6483"


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Sujet : 	Fwd: [CrisisMappers] Re: Open Imagery for Chile
Date : 	Tue, 2 Mar 2010 09:27:53 +0100
De : 	David Stevens <tazarkount en gmail.com>
Répondre à : 	crisismappers-chile en googlegroups.com
Pour : 	crisismappers en googlegroups.com, 
crisismappers-chile en googlegroups.com
Copie à : 	Michael Keaney <mkeaney en digitalglobe.com>, France Lamy 
<flamy en google.com>, Chris Nicholas <chrisgnicholas en att.net>, Walter 
Svekla <wsvekla en gmail.com>, Christiaan Adams <csadams en google.com>, Jeff 
Martin <jeffmartin en google.com>, Lars Bromley <lbromley en aaas.org>, John 
Crowley <bostoncello en gmail.com>, "sgill en worldbank.org" 
<sgill en worldbank.org>, Miller Steve <Miller.Steve en geoeye.com>, 
ulgen en un.org, Schuyler Erle <schuyler en nocat.net>, Christopher Schmidt 
<crschmidt en metacarta.com>, "Patrick Meier (The Fletcher School)" 
<patrick.meier en tufts.edu>, Andrew Turner <ajturner en highearthorbit.com>, 
Jeffrey Johnson <ortelius en gmail.com>
Références : 	<68743.49937.qm en web56506.mail.re3.yahoo.com> 
<92aa65ea1003010858p615a61bci8050233718c2eaea en mail.gmail.com> 
<260504.63526.qm en web56502.mail.re3.yahoo.com>

Mikel and colleagues

Chile is back on-line. And as I mentioned in my e-mail we should be 
coordinating directly with them all efforts. I think this is a very good 
opportunity for the mapping community to work directly with the end 
users. Please copy me on emails if you need our inputs as well 
(david.stevens en unoosa.org <mailto:david.stevens en unoosa.org>).

We have updated the corresponding UN-SPIDER webpage with contact points 
in Chile and also the latest priority areas for imagery tasking as put 
forward by ONEMI.


As for going further then what we have today (value added products for 
most disasters and open access when there is a mega mega disasters to a 
situation when we can have and use the primary data for any disaster) we 
are working on this. It will take time though.


David Stevens
Programme Coordinator
United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs
Vienna - Austria
Tel. ++43-(1)-26060-5631 - Skype: tazarkount
Mobile +43 - 699 1459-5631 -  E-Mail david.stevens en unoosa.org 
<mailto:david.stevens en unoosa.org>

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From: *Mikel Maron* <mikel_maron en yahoo.com <mailto:mikel_maron en yahoo.com>>
Date: 2 March 2010 04:40
Subject: Re: [CrisisMappers] Re: Open Imagery for Chile
To: crisismappers en googlegroups.com <mailto:crisismappers en googlegroups.com>


Thanks very much for giving a clear picture of the role of UNOOSA and 
the Disaster Charter.

Longer term questions ... you say the charter only makes end products 
available? Does it not make imagery data available to Charter members? 
If so, how then could an organization like OSM or CrisisMappers or 
CrisisCamp take part in the Charter ... is there any facility open to 
us? Good to hear that there is work to make imagery more open, please 
let me know how OSM can help advocate for that.

Also, glad to hear that Chile may also see wider availability of 
imagery. OSM and volunteer communities are ready to help, and any 
insights into what the government of Chile needs are welcome. We are 
talking to folks in Santiago, and they are also making inquiries.

We have already linked to the UN-SPIDER portal on the OSM wiki, and are 
monitoring it closely. Reciprocal link to our response page would be great.


== Mikel Maron ==
+254(0)724899738 @mikel s:mikelmaron

*From:* David Stevens <tazarkount en gmail.com <mailto:tazarkount en gmail.com>>

*To:* Mikel Maron <mikel_maron en yahoo.com <mailto:mikel_maron en yahoo.com>>
*Cc:* Michael Keaney <mkeaney en digitalglobe.com 
<mailto:mkeaney en digitalglobe.com>>; France Lamy <flamy en google.com 
<mailto:flamy en google.com>>; Chris Nicholas <chrisgnicholas en att.net 
<mailto:chrisgnicholas en att.net>>; Walter Svekla <wsvekla en gmail.com 
<mailto:wsvekla en gmail.com>>; Christiaan Adams <csadams en google.com 
<mailto:csadams en google.com>>; Jeff Martin <jeffmartin en google.com 
<mailto:jeffmartin en google.com>>; Lars Bromley <lbromley en aaas.org 
<mailto:lbromley en aaas.org>>; John Crowley <bostoncello en gmail.com 
<mailto:bostoncello en gmail.com>>; "sgill en worldbank.org 
<mailto:sgill en worldbank.org>" <sgill en worldbank.org 
<mailto:sgill en worldbank.org>>; Miller Steve <Miller.Steve en geoeye.com 
<mailto:Miller.Steve en geoeye.com>>; Suha Ulgen 
<Suha_Ulgen%UNHQ en unvienna.org <mailto:Suha_Ulgen%25UNHQ en unvienna.org>>; 
Schuyler Erle <schuyler en nocat.net <mailto:schuyler en nocat.net>>; 
Christopher Schmidt <crschmidt en metacarta.com 
<mailto:crschmidt en metacarta.com>>; Patrick Meier (The Fletcher School) 
<patrick.meier en tufts.edu <mailto:patrick.meier en tufts.edu>>; Andrew 
Turner <ajturner en highearthorbit.com 
<mailto:ajturner en highearthorbit.com>>; Jeffrey Johnson 
<ortelius en gmail.com <mailto:ortelius en gmail.com>>; 
crisismappers en googlegroups.com <mailto:crisismappers en googlegroups.com>; 
crisismappers-chile en googlegroups.com 
<mailto:crisismappers-chile en googlegroups.com>
*Sent:* Mon, March 1, 2010 7:58:36 PM
*Subject:* [CrisisMappers] Re: Open Imagery for Chile


I wanted to put forward some info and help build upon your proposal.

First of all I do want to say that UN-SPIDER is a UN Programme that has 
been specifically mandated by all UN Member States to help all countries 
as well as regional and international organisations to access and use 
space-based information. It is an interesting mandate because it means 
ensuring access and use as well as building capacity. We don't produce 
maps. We ensure end users and their partners are able to do it and use 
it for decision making. The fact we have the mandate means we work 
closely with the government institutions responsible for emergency 
response and disaster risk management and also with partners supporting 
these end users. More importantly after the response phase is gone and 
the media chasers have packed their bags and gone after another 
spotlight we continue working with the Government as in the case in 
Haiti: our work begins now as we help the Civil Protection Agency 
rebuild and get ready including for the next hurricane season.

We are a Cooperating Body for the United Nations to the International 
Charter which means whenever the UN is involved in an emergency response 
we activate the International Charter as has been the case for both 
Haiti and Chile.

The Charter does not make the imagery data available but only the end 
products. In some mega disasters imagery does become available for free 
as was the case during the 2004 Indian Ocean Tsunami and the Haiti 
earthquake. We are working to ensure that imagery becomes a bit more 
widely available and not only for mega disasters. We have been involved 
and supported 5 disasters since Haiti and none of them received the same 
attention and dedication as Haiti.

Having said that we do see that imagery will be available for wider use 
in Chile as well. We have updated the info on what is being made 
available on our webpage


Two requests

First if the crisismapper community could help us include info on 
available imagery and geospatial data that would help. I know there are 
several other portals as well with similar info but for sure our end 
users do access the UN-SPIDER Knowledge Portal first. Please feel free 
to replicate the info we have on other portals as well. We would 
appreciate a link to our portal. And we will ensure we include a link to 
the other portals. Please send us any info to include to the following 
e-mail: spaceaid en unoosa.org <mailto:spaceaid en unoosa.org>

Then regarding the mapping support for Chile we are open for 
suggestions. In Chile there are strong and efficient government 
institutions in place, both ONEMI and SNIT, and any effort should be 
centred on their needs and guidance.

One last useful info: UN-SPIDER is implemented by the United Nations 
Office for Outer Space Affairs. We are part of the UN Secretariat and we 
are the UN Office responsible for promoting the access and use of 
space-based technologies and solutions. Space is our business and our 



David Stevens
Programme Coordinator
United Nations Office for Outer Space Affairs
Vienna - Austria
Tel. ++43-(1)-26060-5631 - Skype: tazarkount
Mobile +43 - 699 1459-5631 -  E-Mail david.stevens en unoosa.org 
<mailto:david.stevens en unoosa.org>

On 28 February 2010 06:25, Mikel Maron <mikel_maron en yahoo.com 
<mailto:mikel_maron en yahoo.com>> wrote:


    Can we replicate the true environment of sharing that began in the
    response to Haiti?

    We are all at ready to respond once we hear the needs for Chile. OSM
    is ready to map, CrisisCamps are planned, there is an OSM Chile
    community who we are trying to get through to.
    Simply, we need imagery we can use. I was hoping this would be an
    issue we all could discuss in the next few months, but now the need
    is urgent.
    The basic question ... will licensing allow use of the raw imagery
    data for response?

    * DigitalGlobe, GeoEye: Are acquisitions planned yet? Will license
    terms be dropped again?

    * Google: If you post imagery, can you make sure OSM has an
    exception to the non-commercial clause?

    * UN Charter: Any possibility of sharing imagery with volunteer groups?

    * Chris Schmidt/Schuyler Erle: Would you be ready to process imagery

    All ... any other sources or thoughts?


    == Mikel Maron ==
    +254(0)724899738 @mikel s:mikelmaron

Vienna - Austria
skype: tazarkount

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