[Talk-cl] [HOT] InSTEDD, and GeoChat

Julio Costa Zambelli julio.costa en openstreetmap.cl
Dom Mar 7 23:00:19 GMT 2010


Dear Jean-Guilhem,

I turned off the SMS option for the service, since I will still receive the
email and Twitter notifications in the same device. I think we should save
the messages for people that does not have other options.

Regards,

Julio Costa
OpenStreetMap Chile
http://www.openstreetmap.cl/


On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc en arkemie.com>wrote:

>  (Version in English follows)
>
> Estimados todos,
>
> Después de los emails que siguen, un grupo GeoChat "Chile" ha sido creado,
> en respuesta al terremoto de Chile para ayudar a coordinar la respuesta. Usted
> está invitado a suscribirse:
>
>    1. abrir una cuenta en http://geochat.instedd.org/
>    2a. Una vez activada su cuenta, inscribirse para el grupo en geochat
> llamado "Chile"
>
>
> También, Julio ha creado un grupo de GeoChat "OpenStreetMap Chile", "Grupo
> de Usuarios de OpenStreetMap en Chile". Para suscribirse a este grupo:
>
>    2b. Una vez activada su cuenta, inscribirse para el grupo en geochat
> llamado "OSM_CL"
>
>
> He encontrado el proceso de inscripción muy fácil y "amigable". (Entré mi
> nombre, correo electrónico, número de teléfono celular y ubicación). Si
> usted tiene alguna pregunta, por favor hágamelo saber.
>
>
>
> También una lista de correo "tradicional" ha sido creada para apoyar a
> este grupo GeoChat:
>    - Para suscribirse, envíe un correo electrónico a
> geochat-chile-subscribe en yahoogroups.com
>    - Para enviar un mensaje a toda la lista: geochat-chile en yahoogroups.com
>
>
> Saludos cordiales,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
>
>
> ----------
> Version in English
>
> Dear all,
>
> After this discussion, a "Chile" GeoChat group has been created, in
> response to the Chile earthquake to help responders coordinate. You are
> invited to join :
>
>    1. sign up for an account at http://geochat.instedd.org/
>    2a. once your account is activated, sign up for the group in geochat
> called "Chile"
>
>
> Note that Julio has also created a GeoChat group, "OpenStreetMap Chile", "Grupo
> de usuarios de OpenStreetMap en Chile". To join this group :
>
>    2b. once your account is activated, sign up for the group in geochat
> called "OSM_CL"
>
>
> I have found the signing up process very easy and "user friendly". (I
> entered my name, email, cell phone number and location). If you have any
> question, please let me know.
>
>
>
> Also, a "traditional" mailing list to support this GeoChat group has been
> created :
>    - to subscribe, send an email to
> geochat-chile-subscribe en yahoogroups.com
>    - to post a message to the group : geochat-chile en yahoogroups.com
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
>
> Eduardo Jezierski a écrit :
>
>
>  On Sat,Mar 6, 2010, at 2:30 , Jean-Guilhem Cailton wrote:
>
>  Hi,
>
> Exactly Eduardo.
>
> An example picture I had in mind can be seen at the bottom of
> http://www.instedd.org/ (click on it to enlarge).
>
>
>  Yes that is the main geochat UI - http://geochat.instedd.org when you
> sign in and are looking at group messages. We would have to look at how the
> javascript to display the bubbles and images etc would need to change.
>  Anyone willing to help?
>
>
> For a potential use by OSM-Chile, I think it would be better to have
> OpenStreetMap as the basis for the map view. So that the map updates can be
> seen quickly.
>
> Agree -
>
>
> Mikel's blog is very interesting regarding how GeoChat can also help
> feeding updates to OSM, by sending by SMS grid coordinates seen on a walking
> paper.
>
> I am wondering whether, in some areas, cell phone companies can supply e.g.
> antenna information, which could help localizing SMS approximately, when no
> more precise mean is available (or better localization info if possible, of
> course).
>
> The technology is there; but the regulatory issues are tricky. E.g. in
> haiti to correlate a phone number with a tower it takes ~ 3 days to clear
> the paperwork from the Haitian National Police. The telcos have no opt-in
> system to let citizens jump onto this yet.
>
>
>
> Could preparing an example set-up for, e.g., the subscribers to
> OSM-talk-Chile (talk-cl) (at most about 40 addresses at the moment) be a
> good way to get started experimenting with GeoChat in Chile ? Some live in
> hardly impacted areas (Concepción, Pichilemu, ...), some in Santiago, some
> in Punta Arenas...
>
> Please go ahead! Join the geochat users lists to ask for some help and get
> going. We dont have any chile-specific shortcodes yet but MVNO numbers
> should be working.
>
>
> I haven't yet started experimenting with GeoChat from here (I live in
> Toulouse, France). I could help doing some translation to Spanish.
>
>
>
> Maybe we could follow on this topic on
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/geochatusers , which those interested could
> join ? Or by direct mail ? Nicolás, everyone, what do you think ?
>
>
>  Lets continue on that group! Looking fwd to helping you out.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
>
> Eduardo Jezierski a écrit :
>
> Yup, Camp Roberts was a cool joint effort (brought lots of feedback, integration w geocommons for geocoding in some of our components, and MGRS support)
>
> I think Jean means using OSM as the basis for the map view that makes the main GeoChat UI; Jean maybe you can clarify?
>
> ~ ej
>
>
>
> On Fri,Mar 5, 2010, at 16:06 , Kate Chapman wrote:
>
>
>
>  There has been integration before between InSTEDD and OSM.
>
> Mikel wrote a blog post about it: http://brainoff.com/weblog/2009/08/10/1435
>
> -Kate
>
> On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 2:42 PM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton <jgc en arkemie.com> <jgc en arkemie.com> wrote:
>
>
>  Dear Julio,
>
> I just found out about InSTEDD (http://www.instedd.org/) and think it might
> interest you to have a look at what they offer.
>
> As a recent example of their activity, they technically supported the
> emergency short code SMS system in Haiti.
>
> In particular, InSTEDD GeoChat was apparently designed as a communication
> means for "major humanitarian crises". (http://www.instedd.org/geochat)
>
>
> A quote from http://www.instedd.org/technology_overview follows:
> (I do hope nobody takes offence that there might be some common points
> between crisis situations anywhere in the world and common situation in the
> developing world)
>
> "InSTEDD GeoChat is a unified mobile communications service designed
> specifically to enable self-organizing group communications in the
> developing world.   The service lets mobile phone users broadcast
> location-based alerts, report on their situation, and coordinate around
> events as they unfold, linking field, headquarters, and the local community
> in a real-time, interactive conversation visualized on the surface of a
> map.  Once you create a GeoChat group, you may use it as the text equivalent
> of a push-to-talk radio:  send the group a message on the Web, by email, or
> by SMS, and the rest of the group receives it.  GeoChat allows information
> to flow over multiple messaging channels, including dedicated SMS servers, a
> cell phone plugged into a laptop, a satellite phone, and even Twitter.  You
> may learn more about InSTEDD GeoChat here. Please join the online community
> around GeoChat here. GeoChat is hosted "in the cloud" via Amazon, so there
> is no server to deploy.  GeoChat has global SMS coverage through Clickatel,
> has a US domestic SMS shortcode, and may easily be integrated with gateways
> of local carriers.  Users have referred to GeoChat as “Email for the Bottom
> Billion”."
>
> GeoChat is in Beta.
>
> I do not know whether it is easy to have OSM as the map used in GeoChat
> (example pictures display Google maps), but since it is free and open source
> (GPLv3), it would certainly be possible to adapt it if necessary.
>
>
> I am just learning about InSTEDD, so there may also be other potentially
> interesting things on their website (like http://www.trackernews.net/, for
> instance).
>
> Hoping this helps,
>
> Jean-Guilhem
>
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> twitter: @edjez
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>     _____________________________________
> Eduardo Jezierski, InSTEDD, VP of Engineering
> skype: eduardojezierski
> twitter: @edjez
> mobile: +1 425 269 8378
> Iridium +88 16 32 51 61 85
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