[Talk-cz] [Imports] CzechAddress Import

[Dalibor Jelínek]

Serge,
really? I was not aware that I am importing anything.
If you have those last three imports in mind, then I was
merely tracing RUIAN a Cadastre map by hand.
Is that an import?
If yes, then it is what we do here in Czech Republic
since the Cadastre map was available. Which is a loooong time ago.
So, if you think that this is an import, then please point me
to the definition of OSM import as I would like to check it.

But I have an unpleasant feeling that you are just try bullying me
as I did not like your insensitive and offensive comments about the borders
and history of my country.

Dalibor

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Serge Wroclawski [mailto:emacsen na gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 2:06 PM
> To: Dalibor Jelínek; data na osmfoundation.org
> Subject: [Spam] Re: [Imports] CzechAddress Import
> 
> Dailbor,
> 
> I see from your changesets
> (http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/chrabros) that  you are doing a
> building import. Can you point me to the wiki page and or imports
discussion
> on that building import, because I don't remember it.
> 
> - Serge
> 
> On Thu, Feb 27, 2014 at 8:02 AM, Serge Wroclawski <emacsen na gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 10:49 PM, Dalibor Jelínek <jelinek na jelenet.cz>
> wrote:
> >
> >> We have added in to here
> >>
> >>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_adres_z_RUIAN#Background
> >>
> >> However these are Czech laws without English translation.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> > Is it in the metadata? I did not see a link to the original data
> >>
> >>> > (only a search form), so it was hard to examine myself.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> We have added a link to sample XML file from RUIAN VDP
> >>
> >>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_adres_z_RUIAN#Background
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> > 2. Looking at the sample osm file you provided, I have a set of
> >>> > questions:
> >>
> >>> > a) I'm not familiar with addr:suburb. I see the wiki entry, but
> >>> > can
> >>
> >>> > you elaborate on this more, and why it's needed here?
> >>
> >> addr:suburb is a larger administrative division of a city, it
> >> contains several city quaters and it is used very often in reffering
> >> to a general directions in a city.
> >>
> >> We will create a wiki page for it later.
> >
> > If you want is as part of the import, it should be discussed during,
> > not after the import.
> >
> >> The vast majority of OSM users here have never heard of boundary
> relation.
> >> If we want to convince them that OSM is useful (i.e. generating POI
> >> files for navigation units) then we have to make the as simple as
possible.
> >
> > The vast majority of OSM users never need to know what relations are
> > at all, but it does not matter, since the tools they use will do the
> > right thing. We do not need to fill up the database with duplicate
> > data for no reason.
> >
> >> The source code is here
> >>
> >> http://pedro.poloha.net/osm/czechaddress-sql.zip
> >
> > All I see in that file is sql statements  for transforming the data
> > you've collected and managing it. I do not see any code related to how
> > you will:
> >
> > 1. Merge it with existing OSM data
> >
> > 2. Validate the data you have with ground truth
> >
> > Those are what I'm most concerned about. Please tell me how your
> > process will handle this validation step.
> >
> > - Serge