[Talk-dk] Fwd: Re: Trafikalarm

Michael Andersen hjart at milvus.dk
Man Apr 11 09:43:28 UTC 2016


Jeg fik svar fra DWG (se nederst i mailen)

Jeg vil selv fortsætte kommunikationen med TrafikAlarm. Andre er dog velkomne 
til at byde ind hvis der er noget specifikt.

På http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/fzl får man et overblik over hvor TrafikAlarm 
står som "last modifier" (altså den sidste der har redigeret en vej). Hvis 
nogen af jer vil tjekke nogen af de berørte veje med henblik på en generel 
vurdering af om der skal reverteres vil det være godt.

Hvis nogen af jer igen bemærker hvad der ligner automatiske redigeringer, er i 
velkomne til også at kontakte DWG og bede dem blokere det.

Mvh Hjart



 ------------Svar fra DWG ----------

Søndag den 10. april 2016 19:43:56 skrev du:
> Dear Michael,
> 
> Thanks for letting us know about this situation.
> 
> Since you have initially made contact with and have an open communication
> channel with the company, are you interested in continuing to converse with
> them regarding the situation? If so, we need to first convey that any sort
> of automated or mechanical edits need to be thought out in detail and
> discussed with the OpenStreetMap community before they unleash any sort of
> automated way-splitting or speed adding bot (e.g.
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct). Another
> thing for them is that max speeds should not be haphazardly added based on
> solely one anonymous user report in some area (the location could be off,
> it could be mistyped, etc.).
> 
> If you don't want to contact them anymore or would just prefer to hand it
> off, I'm happy to send them a mail and get in touch with this same person.
> 
> In regards to the edits, are you familiar with any of the ways they have
> modified? It may be necessary to for us revert most or all of the
> edits--especially in cases where they edited large segments of ways using
> iD--but I am curious if any of the edits have been meaningful/potentially
> correct.
> 
> Best,
> Ethan aka FTA
> 
> --
> OpenStreetMap Foundation
> Data Working Group - data at osmfoundation.org
> --
> [Ticket#2016041010000014]
> 
> 04/10/2016 18:06 - Michael Andersen wrote:
> 
> Hi
> 
> I've been wondering about the edits of
> [1]https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TrafikAlarm for a while.
> 
> The account has been editing maxspeed all over Denmark. It never split roads
> (OSM-ways) though and even edited it's own edits as if it where getting
> reports from different spots along the way.
> 
> Last week I sent an email to support at trafikalarm.dk asking whether they knew
> about this. They did and just now I received the following from them:
> 
> ---------- Videresendt brev ----------
> 
> Emne: Fwd: Re: [Talk-dk] Trafikalarm
> 
> Dato: Søndag den 10. april 2016, 16:42:35
> 
> Fra: Trafik Alarm <support at trafikalarm.dk>
> 
> Til: Michael Andersen <hjart at milvus.dk>
> 
> ##- Indtast dit svar oven for denne linje -##
> 
> Din henvendelse (ID#21690) er blevet opdateret. BESVAR venligst denne e-mail
> 
> hvis du har noget at tilføje, eller yderligere spørgsmål der vedrører denne
> 
> henvendelse.
> 
> ----------------------------------------------
> 
> Fiona, 10. apr. 18.42
> 
> Hej igen Michael,
> 
> De indmeldinger du oplever fra Trafik Alarm er generet via appen, og nogen
> 
> (hvis ikke alle) af problemerne med de hyppige rettelser i Open Street Map,
> 
> skyldes at vi ikke kan få appen til at automatisk at tilordne informationen
> 
> fra indmeldingspunktet til den korrekte bid af vejstrækningen, så vi søger
> 
> derfor noget input til hvordan man (automatisk) kan løse dette.
> 
> Er det noget du kan hjælpe med ideer til?
> 
> Mvh
> 
> Fiona
> 
> ----------------------------------------------
> 
> Basically they are telling me that all of the edits of this account has been
> automatic and are even asking me whether I can help figuring out how to
> *automatically" split roads.
> 
> I didn't see any edits from the account since I contacted them first.
> 
> I mentioned this on [2]irc://irc.oftc.net/osm and was adviced by Simon Poole
> to contact the DWG
> 
> Thank you
> 
> [3]https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Hjart
> 
> 
> 
> [1] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/TrafikAlarm
> [2] irc://irc.oftc.net/osm
> [3] https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Hjart




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